I can vouch that when i sent the samples off i was the only one to handle the powder
That's fine, call me devils advocate and forgive me is this has been covered but no one seems to want to be educated on the actual testing process, so how about more info on the tests conducted and their accuracy. What, where how is the testing done exactly and what is the margin allowances. Just because it stamped with a gov stamp means buckles really, especially when the company paying the bill is the one who has the most to gain.
I'm all up for quality control but I know from experience in having steel tested that you can send samples to 5 different labs to conduct the same test and the results will all vary, there is also a range of different methods for testing and with each method the results vary, so whats the legible factors the results can alter in these test.
For example Protein Powder normally has storage "keep safe' instructions / requirements on the label, how does this change the tested sample result, who can confirm the management and age of the sample prior to testing.
Was the original raw powder also tested before the mixing process, was this with in spec's range, how was this treated before mixing was the mixing done on a day that could upset the protein content, who knows really. One could go on for days on the "what about xyz" and questionable factors.
I'm sure there is much appreciation for the "good will", but lets not loose sight of your intention$ and the fact is what your doing can cause a lot of harm especially when there are multiple unknown factors that raise questions to any testing method be it protein or any thing.
Bulk Powders also sells raw unflavored protein cheaper than the mixes so why would they have the need to be unreliable with there mixes, I trust a company of their nature and if I want a more pure protein ill harden up and drink the raw stuff.
Question everything when it comes to politics, i say!....
This is what I'm talking about.
Who can verify how the powder was treated before it was sampled, or in the delivery process or once it arrives at the lab.
There has just been a massive heat wave, does this affect the sample?
Don't forget who's paying the fee, corruption is always massive when there is influences $ on the table or under.
Maybe i'm just wired differently, i should have been a cop.
That's fine, call me devils advocate and forgive me is this has been covered but no one seems to want to be educated on the actual testing process, so how about more info on the tests conducted and their accuracy. What, where how is the testing done exactly and what is the margin allowances. Just because it stamped with a gov stamp means buckles really, especially when the company paying the bill is the one who has the most to gain.
I'm all up for quality control but I know from experience in having steel tested that you can send samples to 5 different labs to conduct the same test and the results will all vary, there is also a range of different methods for testing and with each method the results vary, so whats the legible factors the results can alter in these test.
For example Protein Powder normally has storage "keep safe' instructions / requirements on the label, how does this change the tested sample result, who can confirm the management and age of the sample prior to testing.
Was the original raw powder also tested before the mixing process, was this with in spec's range, how was this treated before mixing was the mixing done on a day that could upset the protein content, who knows really. One could go on for days on the "what about xyz" and questionable factors.
I'm sure there is much appreciation for the "good will", but lets not loose sight of your intention$ and the fact is what your doing can cause a lot of harm especially when there are multiple unknown factors that raise questions to any testing method be it protein or any thing.
Bulk Powders also sells raw unflavored protein cheaper than the mixes so why would they have the need to be unreliable with there mixes, I trust a company of their nature and if I want a more pure protein ill harden up and drink the raw stuff.
Question everything when it comes to politics, i say!....
testing is according to Australian Standards test, used by dairy companies and food manufacturers alike.NMI = The National Measurement Institute (NMI) is Australia's peak measurement body responsible for biological, chemical, legal, physical and trade measurement.
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NMI is responsible for maintaining Australia's units and standards of measurement and for realising those units of measurement through the development and maintenance of standards of measurement, reference materials and reference techniques. On 1 July 2010, NMI became responsible for trade measurement. NMI is now responsible for the full spectrum of measurement, from the peak primary standards of measurement to measurements made at the domestic trade level.
.03 Dairy products listed as determination(s) by technique(s) using method(s)-
Acidity-titratable by classical using AS 2300.2.10
Ash by classical using in-house VL286
Carbohydrates; energy by calculation using in-house VL412
Chloride, nitrite, nitrate, phosphate, sulfate by IC using in-house VL359
Cholesterol by GC using in-house VL288
Fat by classical using in-house VL302
Fatty acid profile by GC using in-house VL289
Moisture, solids-total by classical using in-house VL298
pH by classical using AS 2300.1.6; VL389
Protein, nitrogen-total by classical using in-house VL299
Salt by classical using in-house VL303
Sugars by HPLC using in-house VL295
Just got the result: 5.29% nitrogen. About half of what the stuff I ran through got ~79% or so. If it is whey protein (discounting moisture), then the factor gives ~34% protein as analysed. Sounds very low, but I'm not sure what you sent. Duplicate nitrogen results were: 5.297% and 5.278%.
I didn't get a moisture run on the sample because I didn't want to push my luck with the favours, but assuming say 4% moisture, it still only gives about 35% protein on a dry basis.
The stuff I originally ran through was professionalwhey.com.au aus whey protein concentrate; quoted as being 81.5% protein on a dry basis, and gave pretty close to that at 79% considering I didn't get a moisture done on it either, just assumed around 4%. Nitrogen results were around 11.8%.
We are a coal laboratory, so can't attest to the calculated values (the nitrogen % is pretty much all I can put my hand on my heart and say is right) but it may give you some reason to pursue proper testing by an accredited food lab.
The Kjeldahl method's universality, precision and reproducibility have made it the internationally-recognized method for estimating the protein content in foods and it is the standard method against which all other methods are judged.
I will get 2 x BulkPowders batches tested along with a No Name from a local Health Shop and a Gasparri (SP?) powder.
Avoid Gaspari, the idiot spikes it with taurine and some other amino acid
basically as like a filler, but on label still 90% protein or wahtever
This makes me sad, Gaspari is what I've been using for a couple months now. I'm looking to change tho as the supplier I was getting it from has upped the price :/ I'm thinking I'll switch to BN
Yeah for sure dudenheim... can't go wrong with the cheap pure stuff
Get chocolate, everything else is meh
I'm not a chocolate flavour fan, I was thinking of just going with the vanilla, it seems to get good reviews.
What's it like to cook with?? I love making pancakes and mug cakes with my protein
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