What is actually sad / amusing about all this is people arguing that it wasn't the growth chemicals that fucked him up but the recreational ones.
What is actually sad / amusing about all this is people arguing that it wasn't the growth chemicals that fucked him up but the recreational ones.
well steroid users say they are harmless, non users say they are the devil. guess probably both wrong.
dont think any steroid user would say there are no side effetcs. but implying your going to die if you use them is scaremongering.
like this guy, clearly something very wrong with him yet no actuall diagnosis..so how can they say what caused it?
is there anyone else out there with similar symptoms from using steroids? doubt it (maybe a few). so how can anyone actually claim steroids cause this? you cant.
Aas doesn't fry your brain like reccy. Extensive abuse at crazy doses may cook an organ or too but it doesn't turn u into a dribbling mess. It's pretty obvious what does this. Look at majority of long term reccy abusers.I've never said they are the devil. I just don't deny that there are negative side effect like any drug.
Aas doesn't fry your brain like reccy. Extensive abuse at crazy doses may cook an organ or too but it doesn't turn u into a dribbling mess. It's pretty obvious what does this. Look at majority of long term reccy abusers.
Fry your brain.
Cook an organ.
Are those medical terms.
I'm not denying the side effects of rec drugs. It's not even in the argument.
There does seem to be a lot of heart problems in groups that have a high probability of steroid use.
If you would like me to provide medical studies from ncbi and PubMed I'm sure I could but right now cbf.
My terminology doesn't detract from my point.
There is no doubt that aas has a negative impact on lipids and myocardial function. I have the bloods to prove that. My lipids were wrecked.
I also have the bloods to prove that a couple of months on trt test lipids will return within range.
This guy dribbling and speech issues isn't because of aas. Its the fact he was a heavy abuser of reccy drugs. If he drops dead of a heart attack tomorrow I will go with his lipids were ruined through prolonged abuse of aas.
I would love to see his full bloods actually.