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Yep, Lee Priest says when he trained with Yates that he (Yates) trained the same as everyone else - not HIT. I suspect it's all to sell Videos and appear different for Sales purposes.

Are there any top Bodybuilders who train HIT? HIT is convenient for the non serious lifter.

Train each Muscle twice a week with a bit of Volume.
 
Wasn't Dorian the first BB to sleep with an I.V. drip in


or is that myth?
 
^ its hard to know what is true or not, Dorain has been very open around his use of drugs but still people dont believe the doses he used were as small as he says and also lots dont seem to believe his comments around his limited use of GH.
 
^ its hard to know what is true or not, Dorain has been very open around his use of drugs but still people dont believe the doses he used were as small as he says and also lots dont seem to believe his comments around his limited use of GH.

but an I.V. drip can be used for things other than Roids. So who knows!
 
yer true, he was a very committed person who was 110% absorbed in what he did and winning so would not put it past him to use any technique that helped. I'll ask him next time I see him ;-)
 
After I left the AIS, they (the AIS), began to experiment with I.V drips for nutritional/ recuperative purposes. They quickly abandoned it as it did not produce the results they were hoping for. This info was not from Google or the Internet.
 
After I left the AIS, they (the AIS), began to experiment with I.V drips for nutritional/ recuperative purposes. They quickly abandoned it as it did not produce the results they were hoping for. This info was not from Google or the Internet.

I think AFL Teams experimented with it for rehydration etc after Games.
 
I think AFL Teams experimented with it for rehydration etc after Games.
I wouldn't be surprised. I can share with you what did actually work at the AIS as far as recuperation was concerned, and this knowledge was brought to us from the eastern block countries at the time (we're talking early 1980s here). You have a hot sauna, then you take a plunge in cold water. The sauna opens up all your skin pores, assisting with the removal of toxic by products accumulated through training, eating, and even negative thoughts..., whilst the cold water dip immediately after, assists with the movement of lymph throughout the lymphatic system. Both of these "exercises" go a long way to relax the lifter, as well as clean him out from the inside out... ultimately increasing the rate of waste byproduct elimination, leading to a shortened time for recovery.
 
The size of a muscle represents potential strength rather than actual. You still need to get the message through and that's where neural efficiency comes in.

Strength athletes don't train for size.


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Yep you're right about that.
 
We know muscles are composed of thousands of individual fibers that work together but are also programmed to fatigue at different rates, there's definitely and ordering to the recruitment and that seems to be set, can't be changed.

so, what happens if, after several minutes of rest, you perform a second set?
Are different fibers involved (fast, intermediate, slow) ?

Neural pathways are important but isn't their job done when you've practiced a movement as in you're skilled?
most exercises required minimal skill.
 

I appreciate your reply mate, but I really don't understand what or where you are going.

maybe this analogy can help you;

i likened weightlifting as in "exercise" for the hobbyists to be something that improves ones health, to look better, feel better, to be an adjunct.

Here's the analogy;

we like music, there are many genres, some like the blues and within the blues there are many variations from Bo Diddley, to Justin Bieber.

there are many many people around the world using abbreviated routines successfully, in sport and in private life.

to state that single set work doesn't garner results is showing ignorance.
 
This is from an advocate of H.I.T

if you've hit a plateau using a traditional addreviated intense workout

1. Move to a completely different, polar opposite, rep/set scheme than what brought the plateau.

2. Change the exercises around. New lifts, new lift variations.

3. Vary up the rep schemes and intensity, even in the "cycle". Docs "canned routines" for reaching, say 300 lb. for 20 reps in the squat, from a starting weight at half that for 20 reps, did not involve only adding 5 lb. a week to the bar. He would back weights off, go from single to multiple sets, and have other variations within.

4. Look at your routine and progression and see if it is a trap. Sometimes we stall because we push too hard and too fast. Linear progression is a quick route to failure.

5. Don't be a punk. Sometimes we stall because we don't want to work hard. Or sometimes we stall because it is a bad week or bad day. Sometimes we stall, particularly in singles and doubles, because we are out of our groove. If you bomb a single, try it again in a few minutes. It may just be the groove.

6. Look carefully at exercise selection. You will quickly stall adding weight to single limb isolation exercises. Not so quickly on compounds. I would pretty much infer, from what I recall and what my own experience would be, that if you are doing something like pressdowns or preacher curls or thigh extensions, relative intensity and duration are far more important than taking that training log and adding 5 lb. or 2 reps a week or something. Those lifts are basically finishers, and who cares if you even do them, assuming you pay your dues on the big stuff. And if you do actually do them, just work them hard and increase measurable factors over the long haul, not week to week.
 
When we are considering the average Joe who lifts to get stronger, look better, keep fit etc, doesn't all of this come back to just do 'some for a few', hard work and consistency matter for more than the rep scheme or number of sets for most of us.
 
I thought the subject matter was about muscle hypertrophy and/ or strength, and whether a method of one set or multiple sets application was the way to go. Based on that, I gave my answer. If the subject matter was about a topic other than what the application of one or more sets and which yealds better results, then in that case I must've missed it.

One set does NOT work if your goal is to be the best you can be, period. To say otherwise is to pretend one knows something the rest of the sporting world doesn't know, and that's either a sign of arrogance, or a sign of being so ignorant of real world results as to not even realise it

Andy, you wrote: " to state that single set work doesn't garner results is showing ignorance." I agree with you. In fact, I'll go a step further by saying that one doesn't even have to do a single set to garner results, when that's what's needed at a particular time. However my post where you've quoted me, and took way out of context, is not talking about that, but rather was focusing on the best achievements one can ultimately have if one chose between a one set or a multiple set protocol.
 
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goosey, I know a guy who has coached many sprinters. He is not academically smart, but has a brilliant feel for running, technique and getting his athletes stronger, at least until the know-all pricks steal them with their supposed wisdom and fuck them up. I can tell you every athlete he has had has run faster, and when they all leave they run slower. Every one.

He also trains his runners like you do weights, few reps, flat out and sparingly. lf it works in sprinting, one of the hardest sports to master, it can work in weightlifting.
 
few reps, flat out and sparingly.
Can someone (anyone), please clarify for me what exactly is meant by these 6 words, within the context of the OP, where the comparison is between a single set and a multiple set protocol? Are these 6 words more resembling the one set or the multiple sets? Thanks in advance.