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BMR and calories?

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John555

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I was wondering, say someone has a BMR of 2000. That is, the number of calories required to sustain them. This person wants to create an 1000 calorie deficit. They have 2 ways to create this deficit.

1. Consume 2000 calories, burn off 1000 calories through actvity

2. Consume 1000 calories, no exercise/activity

Both situations produce the same 1000 cal deficit. Do the effect of these effects differ? Whats your opinion?
 
Big diff due to the effects of exercise on your body (muscle, fitness etc) and psych effects of actually eating something rather than crap all.
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Food has its own thermogenic effect. This has been
Covered by fadi.

The goal is not to eat less but eat more!
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Yes, they are different.

Caloric deficit + no exercise = lose fat, lose muscle
Caloric deficit + exercise = lose fat, maintain or gain muscle

When people speak of "weight loss", they usually mean fat loss. So the second is usually preferred.

There are also other funky things that happen when you consume low calories, such as decreasing bone density, and fat loss actually slowing (your body, it appears, panics because it's starving, and tries to preserve the remaining tissue rather than burn it off), and so on. So in general it's better to have just a small caloric deficit and exercise, than have a huge deficit and not exercise.

And of course, as the guys said, it's not merely calories that matter. There's a difference between 1,000kcal of jam doughnuts, and 1,000kcal of mixed vegies and nuts. The second one will fill you up for longer, and nourish you better.
 
Eat more meals more often and set your BMR to 2200 calories. Then consume 2000 calories, burn 500 extra through a heavy weight session, plus the added bonus of an elevated BMR for a few hours later.

Its not rocket science, its incredibly basic, plus most know the diff between nutritious food and empty calories.

They just lack the discipline to make the right choice.
 
It's unlikely that you would be able to gain muscle with a calorie deficit + exercise, or even maintain.
 
Here's another way of looking at it.

Lift heavy and eat whole fresh foods, lots of meat, fish, fruit and veg. Focus on quality.

If you have gotten stronger and your bodyweight stays the same, your body composition will have improved.

If you're not getting stronger, start thinking more about quantity - eat more and drink more milk.

If your strength is going up but your body fat is going up more than you'd like, consider cutting back a little and take a look at the quality of what you're eating, depending on your goals.

Over time your body will find its own natural bodyweight.
 
strong enough? said:
Here's another way of looking at it.

Lift heavy and eat whole fresh foods, lots of meat, fish, fruit and veg. Focus on quality.

If you have gotten stronger and your bodyweight stays the same, your body composition will have improved.

If you're not getting stronger, start thinking more about quantity - eat more and drink more milk.

If your strength is going up but your body fat is going up more than you'd like, consider cutting back a little and take a look at the quality of what you're eating, depending on your goals.

Over time your body will find its own natural bodyweight.
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Good advice only thing to remember is, the "natural bodyweight" has been changed to something that is less then ideal with somepeople, and the body will fight to stay there even though it is not correct...
 
n00bs said:
Good advice only thing to remember is, the "natural bodyweight" has been changed to something that is less then ideal with somepeople, and the body will fight to stay there even though it is not correct...
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I think that's right. There's no one rule that will cover everyone. For these people, some tweaks might need to be made or other short term strategies, or there may be some other underlying disorder that needs to be treated.
 
Wait theres something I dont understand. Say my BMR is 2000, but I expend 1000 calories through activity. So is my BMR 3000 or 2000?
 
Your BMR is your basic metabolic rate.

It excludes all activities.

People need to worry less about the number if theyre trying to reduce.

Simply eliminating processed food will do the job to start. After 8 weeks or so, check what you look like, then make adjustments.

Counting calories gets old quick. This is for those looking to reduce.

The rules change for those gaining.
 
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