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Biggest Nutrition Myths

Op posted how 1kg of muscle adds only 13 ( can't remember exact number on iPhone) calories per kg iif its muscle.

You respond with 3500 maintenance. So obviously it's Alot more then that..
 
Morgan said:
Bit of useless info... I had a DEXA scan a while back and learned that my maintenance calories is 3500 a day! True story
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How does a DEXA scan find your maintenance calories? Regardless that sounds about right.

n00bs said:
Funny that muscle is only how many supposed calories per if a day ?

Lol..
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It's not really suprising given his weight. He weights 35kg more than me and my maintenance is about 3000. It's different for everyone depending on activity levels and also some people naturally burn more calories than others.
 
Oliver04 said:
I don't see many lean nattys posting on here
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Why do you constantly hurt me?

DKD said:
Snake lollies PWO?
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Pop Tarts are better, they have vitamins and minerals. 8 of them infact. Thus, perfectly healthy and they taste better than Snake Lollies. lolumad?

Morgan said:
Bit of useless info... I had a DEXA scan a while back and learned that my maintenance calories is 3500 a day! True story
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But you weigh as much as a sun. Us mortals have to stick with Large Double Quarter Pounder meals with diet coke, otherwise we may creep over our calorie limit.

Also why are underweight people going on about losing weight and other people who are eating sugar laden brekky cereal pre/post WO going off the rails at Tim Tams and other deliciousness?

This is fun.
 
Bro there is vitamins and minerals in that shit! More intact then dextrose.


Also I know someone who got a dexa scan maintenance was 1999kcal, they weighed 98kg..
 
This is nuts

Snakes are great pre work out, you get a suger buzz, and feel better, so workout better.. you crash nicely aswell...

A calorie is a calorie, What it takes for you body to get access to it is a different matter.

some foods take more energy to breakdown. if they get broken down at all.

foods that take longer to digest, have their energy released more slowly, giving a longer feeling of satisfaction, If you have too much energy releasing foods , when your body is already fueled up it will get stored, usually as fat.

Macronutrients wont just hang out in your body until needed, we cant store a lot of stuff, and thats why regular meals are essential, its why eating certain foods at certain times of the day is benificial, When we stress the body such as in sport, the body has usually spent a lot of its short term energy, and nutrients, this needs to be replaced...if you are trying to stimulate the body to grow , make that job easier for it, by haveing a post stress, intake of energy, and nutrients.

certain organs in your body require glucose for energy, like you brain, sure it can go all ketoacidodic, but that hurts, and isnt great, it can effect hormones, and upset your bodies metabolism..., as can having too much glucose!

Moderation, is the key, smaller meals more often helps you stay active, there is less chance of getting that slack just want to sleep feeling if you tend to graze more often than, having a huge sit down meal.

Basic conceps are simple, detailed understanding is not.

If you want good info get a decent nurition text book, that is written by experts in their field, read up on metabolism, and atp production, and macromolecule breakdown, digestion, effects of stress etc, all of this info will be based on peer reviewed articles, published in reputable journals...

....some journals however are little more than, advertising brochures
 
inAfta shitstorm..
im shooting for 200g of protein im @90kg bodyweight. this a good level?

what happened to poptarts!!
 
Kyle Aaron said:
Bro, start that thread about how you dropped 10% bodyfat. That will be interesting and useful. This is not.
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I really don't think getting to 13-14% is something that hard that deserves a thread. Maybe if I got down to 10% that would be impressive.

Other people found it interesting, get over it.
 
wow been away from this site to long , doesnt look like ive missed much usefull information tho.

1kg= 1kg , just like a calorie is a calorie.

It happens to be a way to measure something.

Whats better, 1kg of muscle or 1kg of fat?????

Your stupid if you believe eating 1500cals of protein and 1500cals of cheese cake a day , is going to be as benifical as eating 1500cal of protein and 1500cals of NUTRITOUS unproccessed foods.

My body tells me it needs nutrition (hungry) not calories, espeically post workout...?

Whats going to help my body recover and grow a 2000cal bag of crisps , or chicken and veggies totalling 2000cals.

Ever wonderd why after eating a 2500calorie macdonalds meal , your hungery 45 mins later..............?

theres fuck all nutrion in it.

Books and studies are ways of making jobs and monies,
Markos isnt rich but hes bang on the money with his advise
 
bro said:
I really don't think getting to 13-14% is something that hard that deserves a thread. Maybe if I got down to 10% that would be impressive.
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Results don't have to be "impressive" to be interesting and useful. There are a shitload of blokes in gyms who would love to get down to 13-14% bodyfat, and are genuinely lost on how to do so.

I realise that on the internet, nobody is happy unless they have sixpack abs and 20" arms, can run 100m in under 10', can deadlift 240kg, have at least three people going down on them, a Ferrari and a six figure income on four hours' work a week, but in the real world most of us have more humble goals.

Other people found it interesting, get over it.
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Other people found it interesting to bash you.

I wouldn't want to become ausbb.com's resident punching bag. But if that's your thing, have fun.
 
I'll post the recipe when I get home tonight Jim. It's real easy. The one's there are fairly low cal/carb/fat, but you can the macro's how you choose and use it for mass gain.

See what I did thar?

p.s - One is Lemon Zest Cheesecake, the other is Vanilla. I tried Choc, didn't turn out great.
 

1. You make like this is a big achievement
2. You make like these studies are complex. If anything they are FAR more simple than the methods you're trying to contradict (eating 6+ meals a day, not eating carbs at night etc).
 
Oliver04 said:
1. You make like this is a big achievement
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It's not phenomenal, but is I think respectable. And the point is that it's more than is achieved by most people quoting studies - or achieved by anyone they've coached.

2. You make like these studies are complex. If anything they are FAR more simple than the methods you're trying to contradict (eating 6+ meals a day, not eating carbs at night etc).
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I'm not contradicting these methods. I'm saying the physiology is irrelevant. The physiological differences are dwarfed by the behavioural ones. This is why Hulk is doing well on two meals a day, while poor Dave is doing badly on three, and Annie is doing great on six. Individuals aside, there are some general trends in behaviour.

Whether multiple small meals speeds the metabolism doesn't matter, what we find is that people eating multiple small meals generally find it easier to adjust the total quantities up or down as necessary than people eating a few big meals.

Whether carbs are processed late at night differently to during the day is irrelevant, what we find is that people who have a big breakfast tend to eat less overall than people who miss breakfast and stuff themselves at dinnertime.

Whether 1,000kcal of carbs is processed differently to 1,000kcal of protein is irrelevant; what matters is that we have essential proteins, and we have essential fats but there are no essential carbs, so if you have to cut somewhere, it makes sense to cut carbs. As well, people who eat protein or fat heavy meals tend to feel fuller for longer compared to those who eat carb heavy meals. I can eat 500g of mashed potatoes easily, it's a lot harder to eat 500g steak or lard.

Thus we get the common recommendations to have a big breakfast, and/or have several small meals rather than a few big ones, and to have more protein and fats and less carbs.

So while the physiological differences may make a difference for some ideal person who eats a precise number of calories a day, this ideal person does not exist, and the behavioural variations completely overshadow the physiological ones.

We have this illusion that if we could only control all the variables down to the last gram or calorie then everything would work perfectly. But it just doesn't happen. Picking apart someone's macronutrient ratios is like the people who criticise a powerlifting competitor's squat form on YouTube, it's missing the important stuff for the not so important details.
 
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