My question is, how were you using these before? If you have such a large stack of all this stuff, what did you used to do with it?
I don't know a heap about supps.
Creatine before and after workout, WPI after. BCAA's and EAA's can be used before and after. WPC during the day, Cassein when you are going to bed.
The rest of the stuff I know is in a Pre Workout drink that I use, though I don't know what it is used for exactly.
Keep the creatine and protein for a pre and post workout drink.
Anything left unopened, sell. Anything already opened, bin.
so... is all the stuff 10 months old??
It's not that I am not a fan of supps as such, simply that I am a fan of whatever works. Most supps don't work.pistachio said:not a fan of supps hmm?
It's not that I am not a fan of supps as such, simply that I am a fan of whatever works. Most supps don't work.
The thing is that most of this stuff has no proven effect. Having a look at actual studies, we find few that have looked at these products in the context of resistance or endurance training, for those that have, the results are,
- beta alanine has no effect on HIIT results
- citrulline malate might improve cycling endurance a bit
- arginine base & arginine ethyl ester are the same thing, basically, an amino acid (the building blocks of protein). This is what your BCAAs and EAAs are, too. A review of the literature in 1999 concluded,
"Current data, including results for several well-controlled studies, indicated that supplementation with arginine, ornithine, or lysine, either separately or in combination, does not enhance the effect of exercise stimulation on either hGH or various measures of muscular strength or power in experienced weightlifters. [...] BCAA or tryptophan supplementation do not seem to be effective ergogenics for endurance exercise performance, particularly when compared with carbohydrate supplementation, a more natural choice.""Ergogenic" is science-speak for "gives you energy".
Creatine has been found to make you stronger after 5 days, but not just 2 days. And creatine consumed over 6 weeks when coupled with resistance training makes you stronger than resistance training alone.
Protein powder, whether "isolate", "concentrate", "casein", or simply a skim milk powder for $6/kg, is simply a quick and easy way to consume lots of protein.
A healthy and meat-eating diet will give you plenty of creatine, as it's present in meat; vegetarians would need to supplement, but both vegetarians and meat-eaters can get benefits from creatine supplementation.
A healthy diet will give you plenty of protein. Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins, as I noted; if you eat any protein at all, then you get arginine, leucine and so on.
Here are four guys in 1949, before even protein powder had been invented, let alone all these supps, and certanly no steroids.
They just lifted heavy, ate well and slept deep. When you get as big and strong as them, then it might be time to worry about supps.
Trade you for mymagic beans..
i'll trade you for information on where i can get $8/kg WPC!
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