Sure.Will you train me? ?
I'm posting on my mobile which I'm bad at typing on. Basically I'm fustrated about the education system and am concerned about whether or not I'll be a good PT.whats the question lol
Yes, AIF is shit. But it doesn't matter much. What people forget is that with most cert iii/iv things, it's just the book-learning part. You don't become a chef, chippie or sparky just by going to tafe, you do an apprenticeship as well. We don't have this structure with fitness, so you have to create it for yourself. Doesn't matter where you go to school, school is only the beginning of your education.
Firstly, you need your own experience. Barbells, kettlebells, gymnastics, state-level sports, running, whatever. You don't have to be good, point is you actually had someone coaching you, and went far enough that you got stuck and had to figure out how to go forward from there. Most PTs have never had a trainer or pushed themselves to any level.
Secondly, you need a method, a tool. Could be any tool, but it's just the way you'll try training people for a while. You do it for a year or so and then reassess, how useful was this tool, etc. This method may have a guru - Pavel for kettlebells, Rippetoe for barbells, Ross emanait for bodyweight stuff, etc - so seek them out and their followers and learn all you can from them, an unofficial apprenticeship master, if you like.
Thirdly, you get a job in a big box gym and every day you use those tools and talk to people. I was 4.5yr in community gyms, and every day I taught someone to squat or deadlift, and a few times a week I introduced a newbie to the gym, talking to them about their background and goals. Had I stayed in my garage or done bootcamps in parks or something, instead of dealing with 1,000+ people over those years it would have been 100+. I leave to others to judge how good I am, but I am better for having dealt with 1,000+ people than I would have been with 100+. Practice makes you better.
Honestly, if you can,
- coach a goblet squat and a pushup
- show up on time to PT sessions and
- record them in a journal and
- progress the effort over time
then congratulations, you are in the top 10% of trainers out there. But I think a person can aim higher than that...
ok cool. I don't charge much. ??Sure.
ok cool. I don't charge much. ??
Not when you train me. I'll be the one giving the tips ?But I thought I am the one who gets paid.
Good post Kyle
Legally, you don't need qualifications to even be a PT, let alone do this or that. Where it matters is with court cases. People who spend all day shuffling bits of paper respect bits of paper. If you followed Official Recommendations and someone gets hurt, oh well shit happens. If you do your own thing and someone gets hurt, it'll be your fault. Courts are unpredictable, you could win or lose either way, but that's the trend.This makes me feel so much better. So we don't have to legally follow the education standard taught to us as long as we can back it up?
Aww. I want money :'cNot when you train me. I'll be the one giving the tips ?
Legally, you don't need qualifications to even be a PT, let alone do this or that. Where it matters is with court cases. People who spend all day shuffling bits of paper respect bits of paper. If you followed Official Recommendations and someone gets hurt, oh well shit happens. If you do your own thing and someone gets hurt, it'll be your fault. Courts are unpredictable, you could win or lose either way, but that's the trend.
So you get your cert and then whatever tools or methods you want to use, you get some bits of paper reflecting that. I had some pregnant clients so I got "exercise for two." I used barbells so I went and did Starting Strength - and so on.
Mostly the recommendations are not stupid. Just don't be stupid. Don't max out fat guys on the treadmill. Don't take Agatha off her walking frame to do Zumba. Don't get a 120kg guy to bench 80kg on the swiss ball. And yes, all these things have been done, and they've all caused injuries and ended careers. Just ask people all their physical training background andmedical issues, get them to sign off they told you everything, then take that stuff into account, start them super-easy and build up slowly.
Yes, but be sensible as well. I mean, this is one of the reasons I have them use workout journals.So basically get a few pieces of paper and record everything? Awesome. thanks for.the great advice
I guess but you'd expect the course to be relevent.When I did my PT course (8 or so years ago now) I took very little out of the course besides of my bits of paper saying I am qualified - I basically did it so I could get a job in a gym...I used very little that I learnt though. Most information etc I used was from personal study, my own training etc....at the end of the day if your there to "learn to be a PT" your possibly not experienced yourself enough to be a PT in the 1st place (if that makes sense).
Yes, but be sensible as well. I mean, this is one of the reasons I have them use workout journals.
Judge: "You had a 60kg woman deadlift 120?"
Me: "Yes. After 12 months. And see here, she started with 40, then 42.5, then 45, and... she had 122 deadlift sessions and altogether 2,525 repetitions of this movement to practice it, notice also these two occasions where we noted some lower back pain and had her drop back and..."
The first sounds crazy and dangerous to a sedentary person, and by itself it would be. The second much less so. Don't be crazy and dangerous. I say this, and people nod, and yet...
Hi Kyle, I'm looking into doing a pt course if AIF is shit though would commercial gyms frown upon that or just throw out your resume upon receiving it? They've offered a course that is only 6 weeks in class (one 4hr session weekly and a additional 8hr session every second week) as well as online theory. obviously it won't fulfill my education there and then so how much would I honestly get going with sage or other RTO that have 6month in class courses?Yes, AIF is shit. But it doesn't matter much. What people forget is that with most cert iii/iv things, it's just the book-learning part. You don't become a chef, chippie or sparky just by going to tafe, you do an apprenticeship as well. We don't have this structure with fitness, so you have to create it for yourself. Doesn't matter where you go to school, school is only the beginning of your education.
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