Are you shittin me? All forwards?
Ben Graham was a backman for starters
Stewart Dew- midfielder/forward
Quentin Lynch- Now used as a floating midfielder/ruckman/utility
Anthony Rocca in particular was a Centre Half, and if you knew the game, you'd know CHF's do a fuckload of running.
Shannon Hurn- running backman, sets up most of WC's forward thrusts
Lets not forget McKenzie for GC who is a midfielder...
GLD, I agree with your last comment, players get drafted due to their talent, then put on muscle...and I said in my first post, that strength only helps, but of course the skill takes priority
Skill and fitness should take priority. There is no incentive to spend less time kicking and more time doing deadlifts because ultimately, you're a kid. You have friends, you have school, you have shitty assignments and homework to do. You will also likely have giant blue balls and you will want to fuck every girl your age, or basically any age.
So you won't have the time to go running, go to the gym, go kick the football on top of all of that. Reality is, kids will probably only do one of those and to say do deadlifts over the others is bad advice.
Lol. No one said to do one or the other of course skill and fitness are important, no one said otherwise, but you don't think increasing speed and strength are important for footy??They are a lot more important than sitting on the bloody rowing machine or riding a bike that's for sure. lol.
So you won't have the time to go running, go to the gym, go kick the football on top of all of that. Reality is, kids will probably only do one of those and to say do deadlifts over the others is bad advice
Clearly not that good at reading.
You think a kid is going to want to run around an oval to increase his fitness and only that? Good luck that with buddy. He will do it for a bit, get bored, then go do shit with his friends.
Speed and strength are important. Upper body strength is very important in AFL, rowing helps with that. Being able to run a half marathon is even more important. Sure, if this kid has time to do all three. Go to the gym, do squats, deadlifts, whatever.
But again, you're all caught up in the 'squats = speed' 'deadlifts = better kicking'. That comes last, a very, very, distant last.
If it came first, AFL draft would be like the NFL draft. But it isn't, so it isn't.
I played footy last night and I can tell you no amount of shitty training on rower or bike would have helped me but I know being stronger did.
Can we stop talking about AFL players? They're not draft picks. Players put on size when they get drafted, not before and I'll say it again. It's good to see that keyboard experts know more than the trainers and coaches employed on serious money to teams who have won multiple premierships, FA Cups etc.
Yet, you don't play professionally, nor are you playing high school grade football. Shit leagues are generally a lot more strength based, because players are generally worse at the skills required so they make up for it in being rough as hell.
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Our league is of a very good standard, there a blokes being paid over $2000 a game.
It's good to see that keyboard experts know more than the trainers and coaches employed on serious money to teams who have won multiple premierships, FA Cups etc.
Who here PTC guys have had any experience with AFL strength and conditioning coaching and what exercises and routines would you suggest for aspiring afl footy players to stick too.
Can someone address this? If you all know so much better than AFL scouts, coaches and trainers, why are you not employed by them?
I have a relative who is a sports science professor at a university. Him and every single one of his colleagues is either a professor, Masters/PHDs in sports science, sports psychology, human kinesiology , etc etc etc.
Every single one of these people bar none dont know how to deadlift or squat yet this is a pre-requisite qualification to look after a sports teams strength and conditioning needs.
Do the sums.
I was drafted by Collingwood in '04. Released a year later due to ongoing shoulder and knee issues. Never got a game of AFL footy, and from draft to being released I barely played a game at all. Oh and I never said exercise bike, a kid should be out there riding a bike with friends. Not in a gym doing the same thing. If the school has a rowing team, I'd say do that during summer, instead of using a machine.
Good standard sure, AFL/NRL/Whataver you mean by 'footy' standard? No. Not even close and I think we have identified where you are confused on this issue. You think it is close to that standard.
Again, you're talking about leagues outside of high school and also talking with no idea.
Can someone address this? If you all know so much better than AFL scouts, coaches and trainers, why are you not employed by them?
And lets get back to the OP. I think I'm the only person that has commented on it so far. What would you recommend a 15 year old kid to do?
As much as I think the strength programs of some AFL clubs can be pretty shitty, they all do weights programs. Collingwood did have a powerlifter doing there strength training. Maybe you should tell them they are doing it all wrong, strength is not needed for AFL apparently but a rowing machine is??
*facepalm*
You don't fucking read do you? This is about kids 15-16 years old and how to get drafted. Not about how to be a pro AFL player, because, if you're asking that question here. You're not a pro AFL player, you've got a dietitian, trainer and coach who will outline everything for you.
The original poster said his mate had been drafted to Essendon. Now I know Collingwood players aren't very bright, but Essendon is an AFL team. He then went on to discuss the offseason exercises he was put through and how not many of them were very strong. Therefore it's not about 15-16 year olds, and its not about getting drafted.
Who here PTC guys have had any experience with AFL strength and conditioning coaching and what exercises and routines would you suggest for aspiring afl footy players to stick too.
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