Advice about upcoming cycle..

0ni said:

3rd cycle? Only 10 weeks?
Enjoy losing your size & condition when you come off
PCT is a scam, what is the point of doing this cycle if you're going to shrink back down to your natural limit again when you come off and run PCT lol?
I can understand someone running PCT on the first or even second cycle or if they are going to come off for an extended period of time but third cycle? In a few months you'll be the same size as when you started and it will be a waste of hormones and more importantly your money. Whoever invented PCT was a fucking genius lol and sites such as steroid.com propagate this shit because they own sister companies that sell hormones and make double money from selling hcg, clomid, nolva etc

I'd recommend 400-800mg of test a week (depending on strength you can get) with 600 equi and staying on that in the long term, it won't cost too much either. If you want to go on tren, just reduce equi to 300 and bring in the tren ace at 300-400mg a week - this is a typical cycle for fitness models / "natural" bodybuilders

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Sticky said:

1- The basis of this post, is that the OP is past his genetic limit.
If he is asking questions, I'm sure he is no where near his limit. So after he come off, why the fuck will he loose all his size.

Speculation

2- pct is a scam? Since when?
Pct protocol are VERY well documented on the big named sites, and are recommended for anybody coming off a cycle that shuts down their HPTA.
Why? So the boards can get money? Lol. You are retarded. I suppose my endocrinologist has shares in the boards too. I suppose all the blood work that gets posted is forged too? By the boards lol.
Products that actually boost test production are essential if you want to keep your gains (or most of) post cycle as well as eating a shit load of food.

big name sites all, ALL own sister steroid selling sites that push this idea so they can sell PCT & double hormones, they make money off people not making progress. It's needed if you're coming off, that's why your endo recommends it. But why in hell would you ever come off?

3- LH stops testicular dysfunction. Using the product keeps your nuts working, stops them shrinking, and reduces the risk of permanent damage, as well as making coming off cycle much easier on your body, as your natural testosterone production isn't wiped out.

Again, why would you come off hormones? No evidence to say being on for longer increases chance of permanent damage, but that is irrelevant anyway because why on earth would you come off?

4- ONI recommends that this guy stay on a gram a week long term.
HAHAHA, your an idiot. Why the fuck would you stay on a gram of gear?
Most bodybuilders and powerlifters that abuse steroids do stay on year after year, but most would use the blast and cruise protocol. That consists of 250mg a week of test, and then adding compounds in accordingly in the lead up to a show/comp. This will most likely land you on HRT, and it elevates the risk of becoming sterile. Especially if you don't use HCG....... You kniw, That product that is a scam you talked about earlier.

Where did I say that you would want to stay on grams of gear for ages? I said it's a good cycle for the long term, this is true, I know plenty of people who are on more than this in the long term, both on forums and in real life, britain and australia. Of course you need to cruise sometimes to give yourself a break, YOU'RE STILL STAYING ON THE GEAR IN THE LONG TERM

"this will land you on TRT"
And the downside to this is? Remember, you wouldn't come off anyway to this is irrelevant..

Please for the love of god, shrek, admin, ban this tool from this sub forum, or delete the sub forum.
It's just going to get filled with stupid and dangerous information.

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0ni said:

I'd recommend 400-800mg of test a week (depending on strength you can get) with 600 equi and staying on that in the long term, it won't cost too much either. If you want to go on tren, just reduce equi to 300 and bring in the tren ace at 300-400mg a week - this is a typical cycle for fitness models / "natural" bodybuilders

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Sticky said:

Of couse you need a PCT.

1-12 test E, 400-600mg/wk
1-10 deca 400mg/wk
1-12 hcg

Have adex and caber on hand, I'd personally run it the whole way through. Prevention is better than a cure.

Pct nov 40/40/20/20 clo 100/100/50/50

Don't touch tren yet, especially Enanthate.

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Shrek said:

Bull crap 0ni. Many guys run over 1 gm without GH. You're being ridiculous now

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Shrek said:

Pro's maybe but the common guy does not have access or can't afford GH so in reality it is rare.

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testosterona...the higher the dose...the bloofier you look unless you have gh running in system...with trenbolona ace...the higher you use the BETTER THE LARGER THE MORE CONDITIONED AND THE MORE S E P E R A T E D you look
while testosterona puff your skin up,, trenbolona ace thin is down ! it eliminate the puffy skin and thus say bye bye to the bloofy look ,,it get the skin to a shrink wraped mode with time! it depends ofcourse on your begginign bodyfat level,

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Also, I have realised that test is a really shitty steroid. It is good for mass and thickness, but I look SO much better on a low dose than a high dose.

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