Fair enough. I see misconceptions as opinion where research shows evidence which is contrary to that opinion.ok wouldnt say any of those are misconceptions...
Steroids can amplify ones personality imo, if your an angry Fuk head off gear you'll most likely be an angrier Fuk head on gear. Aas doesn't change my behavior at all, if it did my wife would have left- "roid rage"
- Liver damage (injectables)
- prostate cancer
- cardiac disease
Pretty much the ones I think where research shows otherwise but still claimed by anti-steroid groups as fact.
I don't think you can say "Liver damage is real as are impacts on myocardial function" without providing evidence. 17 alpha based steroids like Dbol do cause liver damage but its not the steroid itself its the molecule attached to allow the steroid to survive the pass through the liver that causes that damage. Injectable steroids don't have that molecule attached.Steroids can amplify ones personality imo, if your an angry Fuk head off gear you'll most likely be an angrier Fuk head on gear. Aas doesn't change my behavior at all, if it did my wife would have left
Liver damage is real as are impacts on myocardial function. But can be reversed with periods of cruising and should be monitored closely with bloods.
Shrinks ya dick is a myth. Shrinks ya nuts is not.
http://www.clinchem.org/content/43/7/1289.longAlthough individual case reports are extant in the literature, the exact incidence of serious or fatal adverse effects is unknown. It therefore remains difficult to assess accurately just how dangerous the use of AAS is. Intuitively, one can deduce that there is probably substantial underreporting of AAS use. Nevertheless, the overall incidence of serious and fatal complications is probably low. These isolated cases of pathology may represent idiosyncratic responses of susceptible individuals to the pharmacological doses used in AAS abusers; as a rule, however, the reported effects cannot be extrapolated to indicate a systematic generic/class effect of androgens—with the important exception of the 17α-alkylated compounds, the most harmful of the anabolic agents. It is sometimes claimed that the intermittent style of using anabolic steroids probably ameliorates the long-term side effects and that using anabolic steroids may not be as dangerous to well-being or as addictive as the use of other forms of recreational drugs. In the absence of any supporting data, however, such assertions should not be generally accepted at present.
I'm not trying to get into an argument with you but blood work on your liver doesn't prove trenbalone cause your liver values to worsen. All it proves is something you were doing or something your body was doing between your bloods had a negative effect on your liver.tren causesliver damage, have the blood work to prove it.
on any prescription for tesosterone liver damage is listed as a potential side effect. a pharma company isnt going to list a side effect unless they beleive it could happen and they need to cover their arse
Yeah I see the contradictions in the results of the study and the common understandings in the BB community around use of trenbalone.well anytime i have used tren my liver values have raised, when they have not on other compounds. thats enough evidence for me.
also tren reducing plasma levels of cholestreol? anyone who has ever used tren has had their lipids go to shit..so not sure where that one comes from. again have blood that show a big spike in LDL and a drop in HDL which rapidly rectified itself after coming off.
just because its in a study doesnt make it a fact.
are you implying painkillers dont cause liver damage? lol
well anytime i have used tren my liver values have raised, when they have not on other compounds. thats enough evidence for me.
also tren reducing plasma levels of cholestreol? anyone who has ever used tren has had their lipids go to shit..so not sure where that one comes from. again have blood that show a big spike in LDL and a drop in HDL which rapidly rectified itself after coming off.
just because its in a study doesnt make it a fact.
are you implying painkillers dont cause liver damage? lol
There was no suggestion made that AAS don't have an effect on blood lipids. Individual bloods don't prove anything other than acting as individual markers. The only way to prove something is to scientifically test, that means using a control group against a group being administered AAS. Elevated liver values don't necessarily equal disease. This study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2291230/ entitled "Muscular exercise can cause highly pathological liver function tests in healthy men" clearly demonstrates what I mean.I have bloods to prove that aas has a negative impact on lipids. So do a shit load of other people. If you think aas doesn't you are burying your head in the sand.
But the effect doesn't have a permanent effect in all cases. I have the bloods to prove this as do many others.
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