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Yeah until I look at some pics a little closer to see how each are tracking I will leave it at that, but Jay winning would not surprise me in the slightest, then again if he dropped to 4th or there abouts it may not surprise me either depending on conditioning.
There's a thread with ppl posting their fav builders up here, one the the members posted a black guy with a phenomenally small waist line, any idea who that is? I think hes an 'days past' builder. Looked unreal.