By all means compete in a competition appropriate for your skill level.
I don't think this is right.
Firstly, the 70s raw records aren't comparable to what the best guys were doing from the late 80s to early 00s, because there was no raw lifting at the elite level during that era. The strongest guys of that era outside of the US, eg Fedorenko etc were doing amazing things equipped. We just don't know how strong they might have been raw in comparison to the 70s, because there was no comparison. Many of the strongest guys in the US and UK were doing multiply lifting, where comparisons were even more ridiculous.
Looking past the equipped era...
It is only in the past 3 years really that powerlifting has taken off, largely off the back of 2 big factors: 1) raw lifting - the equipment understandably put people off and made the sport less accessible for a long time; 2) CrossFit - of the back of which olympic weightlifting and powerlifting have both been beneficiaries. For the most part, powerlifting was no bigger in 2000 than it was in 1975.
It will take a few years for this Renaissance to take effect, but we are already seeing many of the old time raw records fall in the past few years. In Australia, there is so much talent coming through in every federation, it is ridiculous. If it was 10 years ago, most of these guys would have been doing insane lifting in the gym in relative obscurity.
Finally, more people were taking PEDs in the 70s than now. There was absolutely no social/moral issue with PED use in the 70s and right up until the mid 80s. Lots of people still use obviously, but there are a lot more drug free lifters. Guys like Mike T, Blaine, Ray Williams, are all going to surpass the 70s guys.
Oh...and human physiology has obviously not changed in 40 years.
yeah, well you'd probably know more than I would, I haven't followed powerlifting all that closely over the years to know what records if there are, are still unbroken.
do you know? @ strong enough; ?
Didn't you play footy last year Oni. I think its a safe bet for someone who didn't grow up playing footy you were just making up the numbers.
Ridiculous argument Oni.
If I thought I could be competitive in the top 3 in my weight class I'd need to add another 150ish kg to my total. (28%)
Some people just like to set PB's and DGAF about medals.
You would also only have enhanced lifters competing in untested feds if everyone thought the way you do.
I got pushed up from B grade to A grade having never bounced a footy in my life so I couldn't have been that bad
what league was that?
That said, qualifying totals are good IMO. PA just lifted it from B grade to A grade for open. With more competition and the competitive standard lifting, you can afford to do it. The average differential between 1st and last place in each weight class was around 100kg with 6-8 athletes in each class. It worked very well.
If you took out all the people who compete for fun from any competition, the elite field will suck. For most people I've known it's the competing for fun that actually starts people training enough to be competitive at the higher levels.
The other thing to remember is that for every event with a qualifying total you need a number of open meets for people to hit those totals. And while I agreed you probably don't want complete beginners at nationals, event organisers should be setting qualifying totals at a level that ensures they get the right size field of competitors, it's rarely about setting some perceived standard of what is elite.
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"There are just more shitty lifters because for some reason people today like to "compete" for "fun" like it's the fucking Boston marathon or a tough mudder. I don't see why people compete if they don't have a good chance of winning, personally. I've always been one to do meets where I have a good chance of placing and not embarrassing myself. I'd like to see more meets with qualifying totals, especially nationals. At the moment all you need to do is compete once and you qualify for nationals. So you have really long, massive flights which can potentially stop people from performing at their very best. This happened to Fuzzy at a CAPO meet once"
Seems to be exactly what I originally said.
I think Oni is just confusing Jamies Lewis' views of powerlifting in America are applicable to the current state of powerlifting in Australia.
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