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13 year old girl Benches 240lb RAW

Would keeping your feet flat on the floor during bench press reduce the amount of back arch you can physically achieve, compared with using the balls of your feet with a raised heel?
 
Not necessarily.

You would need to be more flexible though to get the same height.

Remember, when arching, the first thiing you want to achieve is tightness, then less ROM via arching hard through your thorasic.
 
mike_nofx said:
Would keeping your feet flat on the floor during bench press reduce the amount of back arch you can physically achieve, compared with using the balls of your feet with a raised heel?
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Correct.

One of the tricks to using an effective arch is how much you get your hips to face forward in a locked and fully extended position. If you don't need your heels to touch the ground, you can bring your feet a lot further back under your body.

Whether or not you can do this depends on the rules in your federation. In IPF you must have your heels on the ground. Hence you see a lot of IPF lifters weared olympic lifting shoes during the bench press - to help them get the feet further back.
 
Bazza20 said:
The stats that say Aus and world champions still have to pay their way to compete. Have to pay to go represent Aus at world championships.
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So ? Thats true in most sports.

My brothers competing in London in the World paratriathlon for Australia this week and he had to pay his own way same for the standard triathletes, no subsidies/tax breaks and had to pay for their own Australian team uniforms(compulsory to wear them).
 
Last year we had our entry fee's covered, and around $150 cash

This year we had our uniforms, entry fees covered, and around $300 cash this year which covers my food and accommodation.

Hopefully next year we can give at least $500 to the athletes which is about 1/3 of the flights.

Slowly but surly things are happening.
 
Ok have a look at crossfit. Shit house sport ( not even really a sport) hasn't been going for as long as powerlifting and now is on ESPN with million in prize money.
 
Bazza20 said:
Ok have a look at crossfit. Shit house sport ( not even really a sport) hasn't been going for as long as powerlifting and now is on ESPN with million in prize money.
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So we should take a legit sport and turn it into a half naked circus?
 
Shrek said:
Does PL get sponsorship in the US like CF does?
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Lol, no way.

Sponsorship is the same here as in the US.
The biggest sponsorship would be from animal as far as I can tell, even then it wouldn't be very much at all.
 
Sticky said:
Lol, no way.

Sponsorship is the same here as in the US.
The biggest sponsorship would be from animal as far as I can tell, even then it wouldn't be very much at all.
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Why do you think CF has taken off and PL still lags behind?

I'm no fan of CF, I admire some of the more elite CF athletes, but I'd take PL any day of the week, but facts are facts and CF is booming.
 
A more appropriate question should be: why is CF booming and Olympic Lifting lagging so far behind. CF has much more in common with olympic weightlifting than it does powerlifting. Powerlifting doesn't get any of the leg-up olympic weightlifting does: government funding, olympic prestige, a long history. When were the olympic weighlifting world championships broadcast? That sport gets a bit of coverage during the olympics and commonwealth games, but nothing in between. Their lifters don't get paid either. And yet you're all fapping over what a great sport olympic weightlifting is and how powerlifting must change to become more popular.

Crossfit was a massive commercial success before it was a TV success. Sponsors follow the money, and Crossfit has made money through charging ridiculous licensing fees. A lot of criticism is levelled towards CrossFit, much of it unfair. But one criticism that gets little airing is the fact it is so expensive to participate in, with much of that money flowing back to CrossFit HQ.

UFC is a poor analogy. Combat sports have, for thousands of years, proven to be the most popular sports. They appeal to the people's basic bloodlust. All UFC has done is take away business from professional boxing and sports entertainment like wrestling.

Powerlifting is a pure athletic sport. It is very simple. Lift lots of weight. It is in the same category as olympic weight lifting and field sports like throwing. Attempts have been made to commercialise powerlifting in the same manner as crossfit and UFC. In the US, the WPO is one of the best examples - big stages, pyrotechnics etc. In Russia, it's the non-RPF/IPF comps, which feature topless models carrying attempt cards etc. IMO, it's the complete opposite to how the sport should be promoted. It's a distraction from and a complete insult to the feats of the athletes. I don't want to see powerlifting go down that path.

I long for the form of powerlifting that used to be shown on ESPN - early 80s IPF. That was the pinnacle of the sport. It was pure, no showiness, just ridiculously strong athletes like Bill Kazmaier, Lamar Gant, Fred Hatfield. Ironically, what killed the TV coverage of powerlifting was the drug stigma. TV networks did not want to be associated with a dirty sport. I say it is ironic, because there are far dirtier sports enjoying a great run from TV networks, WSM being the best example.

Funnily enough, with the introduction of raw / raw + wraps, the sport really isn't that different to the sport in the early 80s, when the world champs were broadcast on TV.

So, powerlifting didn't leave TV because it was boring, or there were too many spotters, or the lifters used knee wraps. It was just the wrong sport in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Most individual athletic sports are underfunded and athletes rarely if ever get paid to compete. Most are amateurs and pay their own way to train and compete - even in olympic sports. Powerlifting is no different to most sports with which it is most closely related. I don't see why that's such a big problem though. The sport is growing at a massive rate across all federations in Australia. Clearly they are all doing something right.
 

I hate the showiness, when i saw the "models" at CAPO carrying attempt cards i was honestly gobsmacked to see it.

If we want people to respect the sport, the respect has to begin from within.
 
lkt004 said:
I hate the showiness, when i saw the "models" at CAPO carrying attempt cards i was honestly gobsmacked to see it.

If we want people to respect the sport, the respect has to begin from within.
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Agree 100%.

I forgot to mention that powerlifting has more registered participants than olympic weightlifting and the gap is growing.
 
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