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0ni
Registered Rustler
I'm still eating chicken wings just half as many through the week
My chicken is fed soy. It's not free range. This means that it's very low in omega3. I also feel like I need to increase my creatine and have started taking it. I exist in near complete glycogen depletion now so pretty much rely on the ATP/Creatine system. This gives me 7-10 seconds of effort per set. As such, I really need to max out my creatine stores and the beef will help with that.
Also my iron was slightly low from not having the red meat. So the inclusion of eggs and beef will hopefully spur my progress on further
My chicken is fed soy. It's not free range. This means that it's very low in omega3. I also feel like I need to increase my creatine and have started taking it. I exist in near complete glycogen depletion now so pretty much rely on the ATP/Creatine system. This gives me 7-10 seconds of effort per set. As such, I really need to max out my creatine stores and the beef will help with that.
Also my iron was slightly low from not having the red meat. So the inclusion of eggs and beef will hopefully spur my progress on further
If you buy free range they will still feed them the exact same feed as the housed chickens. They just have access to an outside lot. The amount of other feed they find outside will be minimal.
Also some poultry farms are now adding omega 3s into the chicken feed. So you might try and find out which ones are if you want.
Also some poultry farms are now adding omega 3s into the chicken feed. So you might try and find out which ones are if you want.
I can't remember the exact requirements for free range but it was something like 10000 birds per hectare. Any bugs and shit are all eaten pretty quick. It's not like it gets replenished quick enough to contribute a significant percentage of their diet.
I would guess most free range farms 95% of the energy, probably more sill comes from the grain mix. Personally I don't see this as a bad thing. The grain mix for chickens is perfectly balanced for them to produce eggs, food they forage isn't.
0ni
Registered Rustler
Oh damn, that's a fuckload of chickens
The only issue I have really is that chickens are not vegetarians, they are carnivores! Soy doesn't make an ideal chicken when it comes to omega3s
I looked at the omega3 chicken and eggs and they are so outrageously priced it's easier just to buy fish oil still. Are free range chickens still better than cage free barn chickens? I know that the eggs are for sure- they taste way better and the yolks look different
Big Mick
"2014 - Kunce of the year"
Not sure the eggs are better as such, certainly taste better, but then again comparing free range supermarket to caged probably hardly and difference for reasons already mentioned lots of chickens on little land.
Find a local person that has chickens. Most can not eat all the eggs the chickens make , my neighbor has chickens that just live in his roughly 1 acre back yard, I think there is about 10-15 there. They lay plenty of eggs and forage all day, and don't really get fed anything apart from food scraps and a hand full of chicken feed per day, the rest they find themselves.
Many people around here have chickens and there is always plenty of true free range eggs, I much prefer them and I generally get them for free as my kids help out collecting eggs and feeding the chickens and letting them out of the fox proof enclosure in the morning.
Don't believe the added price for supermarket free range eggs is worth it.
I will bet the person with the hens in the backyard is feeding them layer pellets at well as scaps. Layer pellets replace all the vitamins and minerals that the eggs take out of them. If they are not feeding layer pellets their chickens will definitely be lacking because there is no way they will be getting the right nutrients from scraps alone.
I've never seen anyone with chickens in the backyard not feed layer pellets as well. It's actually bordering on cruelty.
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0ni
Registered Rustler
I have a few chickens myself, kept at my parents house
Lots of land to feed from and they are fed the scraps
They have the layer pellets too. Only one cup needed between 8 of them though
My parents are vegetarian lol and I told them what they needed but they started getting all fucked up because they fed them vegetarian food. Feathers falling out and brittle eggs. Moved them out to a wooded area where there are lots of bugs and shit and we now throw in some dead crickets a few times a week
Big Mick
"2014 - Kunce of the year"
I get my eggs free range, extra large 30 for $6.
If taste is better, it's simply the difference in fats
Can't go wrong for that price, would be happy to pay that.
May be, I will ask the guy next time I see him just for intersts sake, have not taken much interst in the chickens to be honest. I heard the guy joke a few times that his chickens are the best fed chickens in Australia, I thought it was because they were eating plenty of scraps and bugs and crap they find foraging all day.
I know they get a handful of some sort of chicken feed between them all, may be that's the layer pellets, not sure.
Kranky
Grandpa
when I was married and lived out of town we had chooks,always fed them laying pellets as well as letting them semi free range.
To be honest I have never known of anyone not using pellets
Nope. Wild birds don't lay every day anyway. They may lay 10 or so eggs over 20 days then sit on them and hatch them out. May happen once or a couple times for the year depending on the year.
Modern laying hens have been intensively selected for high laying ability over many generations and then crossbred for the extra hybrid vigor to lay pretty much one egg every day and they have the instinct to sit on the eggs bred out of them.
So the laying hen you have today is miles away from any wild bird and needs a different diet than a wild bird.
Big Mick
"2014 - Kunce of the year"
Well spoke to the neighbor today when I got home from work, and yes they do get some layer pellets along with food scraps and what ever they forage up in his one acre back yard.
