ProRaw Powerlifting

[PTC]

I think if it did then everyone would use them.

In powerlifting, more lifters wear Chuck Taylors than any other shoe combined.

Do we ban Chuck Taylors?

 

[Paullie]

Monolift : dont care

Belt: safety, fine.

Knee wraps: I agree with oliver, they store energy.

Shirts: HELL no, I hate shirts. ProRAW.

 

[PTC]

I like the idea of a very basic shirt as I do believe that they give the lifter alot of protection and would reduce the amount of injuries + attract more lifters. The basic shirts are not expensive at all and are VERY easy to use, I also think that adding that would pretty much cover all protection sides of things leaving no room for excuses. The oldschool shirts would give a lifter about as much as knee wraps do in terms of kgs added (I mean oldschool like hd blast type shirts not the new single ply.) Maybe giving the lifter a choice of 2 shirts of your choice, or getting one made up as you had mentioned. I really like the idea of all of this, as someone earlier said from little things big things grow.. this could potentially be adapted and taken on to how powerlifting should be and possibly unite many lifters.

Well thought out response.

All you guys need to know that I am very much a fan of raw, but when I was first introduced to the sport in the 80's, equipment was widely accepted and NEVER critisized.

People rebelled against it when it started adding 150kg to your bench press. Look at Ryan's benching, 650lbs raw, 1080lbs equipped.

I called the Fed ProRaw, giving me license to change things as I want.

Reality is, unless a shirt provider, like Inzer, Titan etc were prepared to pay serious dollars and provide us with a control shirt, it wont eventuate.

I wont introduce shirts unless the lifters get a kickback in the way of prizemoney.

It would also need to be the most basic of shirts, offering the absolute least in way of performance, again its main virtue would be shoulder safety.

 

[PTC]

Monolift : dont care

Belt: safety, fine.

Knee wraps: I agree with oliver, they store energy.

Shirts: HELL no, I hate shirts. ProRAW.

I dont have an issue with a lifter getting 10-20kg through wraps. As I said before, Max won a Worlds without a belt, you guys can win ProRaw without wraps.

Just another challenge.

 

[Goosey]

I think if it did then everyone would use them.

In powerlifting, more lifters wear Chuck Taylors than any other shoe combined.

Do we ban Chuck Taylors?

There you go.

Lifting shoes will add at least twenty kg's to a lift.

I really like your idea Markos, but most people want to see freaks lift hellish weight.

Good luck, great idea.
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[Christian]

I agree if you get a sponsor for a shirt then naturally it would be same shirt for everyone and very basic. So everyone has the same limited advantage if any. Same should be said for knee wraps or at least some form of approved wrap to keep winging to a minimum.

They had no problem with that at the olympics...


What about elbow wraps markos

 

[PTC]

Elbow wraps are not allowed anywhere from my understanding, so I wont be a pioneer on this one.

My own preference is belt, knee and wrist wraps.

If big dollars become available to the lifters, then I would contemplate a light single ply shirt.

At one stage I had considered a Slingshot to protect shoulders. They add 15kg to a raw bench and offer loads of shoulder support, but again, its not used anywhere else and I dont want this to be a circus.

 

[Christian]

Wont people winge about knee wraps allowed and elbow wraps not? Why is 1 join more important then the other?
(out of curiosity)

 

[PTC]

Who makes elbow wraps????????

 

[Goosey]

We are confusing wraps with sleeves are we.

There is a difference.
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[jonnie_sfw]

Markos,

I found ProRaw a shirt

 

[PTC]

Yep, massive difference.

I want to keep this as close to original powerlifting as possible, I'm not looking to add things

 

[PTC]

Johnnie, ours says (PTC)

I GOT 99 PROBLEMS
BUT A BELT AINT ONE

 

[jonnie_sfw]

Johnnie, ours says (PTC)

I GOT 99 PROBLEMS
BUT A BELT AINT ONE

I was looking for that one, but couldn't find a picture on the internet machine

 

[Oli]

Oliver, sleeves only retain heat, they do not give adequate support to the knee. I found the no wraps issue cool with guys squatting 160kg, but we have 5 guys that have gone over 200kg now, and with the influx of CAPO lifters joining, some have done 300kg without support.

Until you've had massive weights like this on your back, you wont understand the piece of mind a simple $25 knee wrap brings.

But thank you for your opinion Oli, and of course, you dont need to wear wraps or a belt if you dont wish to, it didnt harm Max at the Worlds not wearing a belt.

My understanding is that it really depends on brand. I've been told the APT convicts and elitefts heavy sleeves have a lot of support in them and some carryover (as opposed to the neoprenes etc). I wont argue it though, its not a big deal.

 

[PTC]

We use the Inzer, which are banned even in comps that allow sleeves, they have straps, you dont get a single kilo out of them, just warmth lol

 

[Rugby88]

Yo Markos - just wondering if you have set a date yet? - I was going to look through the 20 pages but thought it would be easier to ask lol

 

[Paullie]

I dont have an issue with a lifter getting 10-20kg through wraps. As I said before, Max won a Worlds without a belt, you guys can win ProRaw without wraps.

Just another challenge.

I disagree with them if the competition is meant to be raw.

 

[Rugby88]

Maybe everyone should just lift in boxers - is that raw enough lol

 

[NPR]

See how you feel if you get to 200kg+ for reps in training each week and are looking to 250kg+ in comps.

You will want something on your knees.