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Old 01-09-2010, 10:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Go read about Frank Zane and t3. He used it a lot back when he was a pro and now these days he has to take it every day because his body shut down production.

Very bad idea, t3 is dangerous.
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t3/t4 needs to be cycled properly as it is meant for people who have defficencies with there thyroid. I dont reccomend taking it but you shold does up slowly in a pyramid style ie half a pill for 4 days then 1 pill then up to 1.5 etc then cycle off it so your thyroid can gradually adapt back to nomral levels.... That said I dont reccomend it at all but have mates who have done clen and t3/t4 leveroxine cycles.

Clen on the other hand you can only take for up to 3 weeks max before your body adapts to it and it has no efftect. when taking clen you are best to take a body temperature readin for 2-3 days prior to goign on it then once you are on it you will notice a rise in body core temperature of .5 to 1 degree. gradually dose up each day to a maximum of 120mg a day.. whne you notice your body temp stabilizing then it is time to get off it. usually after 2 weeks.
There is a drug which blocks the immunity of clen called ketofin.. if you take 1,2 mg a night of ketofin then you can stay on clen for up to 8 weeks.

I dont reccomend you take any of this stuff as i know lots of mates who have taken it and they have some side effects.... But if you are going to take them its best you know what your doing...

HIIT training . sprints and KB complexes with a bit of dicepline is the only thing you need for weight loss but.
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Clen is BAD! T3 is much safer but you shouldn't take either. If you are going to take them you need to be on gear. Clen hardens the walls of your heart.. Enough said.
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okay everyone, thanks for your thoughts and advice etc.

i am now off the t3 and back to training and eating as clean as i possibly can. im struggling as you all can tell.. so i do thank you for your brutal honesty, sometimes its what you need to get you back on track!
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i was offered some t3 i think it was called thyroxine not sure if its the same.. anyway the guy wanted 250 for a little bottle and after doing a bit of research I decided I didnt want to mess with my thyroid, and the guy was a rip off wanting 250
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shit 250.
you can get stuff like this in via research chemical places.

clen gets taken though
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