Okay, you guys get blinded by marketing.
I dont know who the f u c k stronglifts is, but 5 x 5 was first introduced by Bill Starr in the late 70's. It was a very uncomplicated system, used by colleges and high school football teams.
Wanna have a guess how much a high school or college linebacker squats?
They are already strong.
Now someone is cashing in on novices who love the romance and hate the work. Good luck to them, everyone should be able to make a dollar, some of that money should be channelled back to Bill.
Lets say you've just started lifting. Someone on here was doing 5 x 5, and he was using 35kg from memory. When he went to 40kg, a weight a handful of women use at PTC, he was failing at 2-3 reps.
A novice has not yet learned how to explode. He lifts slow, he cant draw on his fast twitch fibers, which are needed for low reps. I see this with clients every day. A girl that fails at 2 reps on 30kg does 25 reps on 20kg. Experienced lifters cant match that effort.
Kyle, you say there are impressive results on that forum, I'll believe you, I'm not checking.
I know Benny and Vocy did it well before 3 months. You can check the results of stronglifts and report back.
But instead of checking out OTHERS, check your own progress. How close are you now, how long have you been lifting.
Dave started in December, benches 105kg, squats 175kg and deadlifts 215kg, thats miles over.
Compare your own progress on 5x5 rather than others. Dave took around 7 months because of the bench, Vocy took 2 1/2 months, Max still isnt there in 12 months.
Everyone is different, so just worry about yourself. You should be real close in 12 months of lifting, tops. Max doesnt use his age or light bodyweight as an excuse, either you can or you cant.
The 5x5 program has many many benefits, and I have been using it since before stronglifts owner mother was born.
But not before I could squat 300lbs (back then). I knew I was weak until then, and I had to get strong first. I learnt this early.
So if you are benching 100kg or squatting 140kg, by all means, do the 5x5, thats what it was intended for.
I see no benefit in a guy totalling 500kg in the 5 lifts doing it.
I've even got a 60yo man close to those lifts in 7 months. He will be well and truly past them in 12 months.
Do some self appraisal, see where your at.
I'm not saying its a crap program, I love it, but it should be for intermediates or geneticly strong lifters, its your SECOND program, not first.
I dont know who the f u c k stronglifts is, but 5 x 5 was first introduced by Bill Starr in the late 70's. It was a very uncomplicated system, used by colleges and high school football teams.
Wanna have a guess how much a high school or college linebacker squats?
They are already strong.
Now someone is cashing in on novices who love the romance and hate the work. Good luck to them, everyone should be able to make a dollar, some of that money should be channelled back to Bill.
Lets say you've just started lifting. Someone on here was doing 5 x 5, and he was using 35kg from memory. When he went to 40kg, a weight a handful of women use at PTC, he was failing at 2-3 reps.
A novice has not yet learned how to explode. He lifts slow, he cant draw on his fast twitch fibers, which are needed for low reps. I see this with clients every day. A girl that fails at 2 reps on 30kg does 25 reps on 20kg. Experienced lifters cant match that effort.
Kyle, you say there are impressive results on that forum, I'll believe you, I'm not checking.
I know Benny and Vocy did it well before 3 months. You can check the results of stronglifts and report back.
But instead of checking out OTHERS, check your own progress. How close are you now, how long have you been lifting.
Dave started in December, benches 105kg, squats 175kg and deadlifts 215kg, thats miles over.
Compare your own progress on 5x5 rather than others. Dave took around 7 months because of the bench, Vocy took 2 1/2 months, Max still isnt there in 12 months.
Everyone is different, so just worry about yourself. You should be real close in 12 months of lifting, tops. Max doesnt use his age or light bodyweight as an excuse, either you can or you cant.
The 5x5 program has many many benefits, and I have been using it since before stronglifts owner mother was born.
But not before I could squat 300lbs (back then). I knew I was weak until then, and I had to get strong first. I learnt this early.
So if you are benching 100kg or squatting 140kg, by all means, do the 5x5, thats what it was intended for.
I see no benefit in a guy totalling 500kg in the 5 lifts doing it.
I've even got a 60yo man close to those lifts in 7 months. He will be well and truly past them in 12 months.
Do some self appraisal, see where your at.
I'm not saying its a crap program, I love it, but it should be for intermediates or geneticly strong lifters, its your SECOND program, not first.