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    Angry Recreational Steroids are not Cheating

    So im 20 years old, 6'3 and around 100-105kgs (havent weighed myself lately) been only training consistently for 2 years but have been researching and training on and off since i was 14. I started my first cycle of 400mg of test, injected every other day and the results are insane. my coach says it looks like ive put on around 8kg of lean mass and lost atleast 5kgs of fat. noticeably more vascular. Im very naturally muscular, i have very broad shoulders and i carry lots of fat in my legs so my mid section stays relatively lean. My favorite part of this cycle was a massive strength explosion. my 1rm for bench was 100kg, after 11 weeks i can 142.5 for 2 and i deadlift 210 for 3. i have on older brother who is 23 and we both work out. he has a much more athletic build and i have a more stocky "fat" build. we both have the same coach who coaches us because we are long time friends. Every-time i hit a new pr my family and friends (im pretty open about my use, if someone i know asks ill tell) especially my brother always seem to scoff at me and say things like "youre cheating" or "yeh because steroids"

    My main point is i work hard every day, take every set to failure push myself to the limits in the gym, hyper focused on maintaining a clean diet and focus on time under tension, proper form, going to failure etc. and im not in denial, i know steroids help alot but im still working my ass off and when i share results i hate how people minimise them. I especially hate when people say its cheating, how can a recreational choice i made to enhance myself for my own benefit cheating, whos being cheated? anyone can take what i take, but not everyone can train hard and eat right and do whats necessary to make the gains i have made. Steroids in the recreational sense are not cheating. i feel like cheating implies theres a victim, someone or an organisation that you are gaining an advantage over, but i take steroids just so can be better faster. which is an ode to my impatient nature.





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    i think im about 15% body fat, i have abs but my ass and quads are still fat as hell lmao. my girlfriend is jealous of my cake


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    Sensational story bro.

    Do you plan to take roids forever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    Sensational story bro.

    Do you plan to take roids forever?
    no


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    Quote Originally Posted by sammaeltdo View Post
    no
    Then you will not maintain what you gain. So probably not worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    Then you will not maintain what you gain. So probably not worth it.
    i mean im no where near my genetic potential so why would i lose it? i could naturally maintain 20+ more kilos of lean mass on my frame. i just dont want to train for 10 years to get there. id rather train super hard for 3 years, reach my genetic limit and then maintain for the rest of my life. as long as im eating enough, stimulating the muscle through resistance training and my genetics allow it ill lose very little muscle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    Then you will not maintain what you gain. So probably not worth it.
    the same argument could be made for natural body building. you gonna maintain that muscle your whole life? no? then theres no point gaining it lmao. youll just lose it when youre 35-40


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    Quote Originally Posted by sammaeltdo View Post
    the same argument could be made for natural body building. you gonna maintain that muscle your whole life? no? then theres no point gaining it lmao. youll just lose it when youre 35-40
    Lose it at 35???
    WTF?

    A lot of guys peak at that age.


    How the hell you gonna sustain high levels of test once you come off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    Lose it at 35???
    WTF?

    A lot of guys peak at that age.


    How the hell you gonna sustain high levels of test once you come off?
    wdym? my natural rhythm will kick back in after pct, ill easily maintain 90% of the mass ive gained
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    Quote Originally Posted by sammaeltdo View Post
    wdym? my natural rhythm will kick back in after pct, ill easily maintain 90% of the mass ive gained
    You may hold on to 90% if you do one cycle and add maybe 2-3 kg of lean mass.

    Cycle for years and years you lose a fair chunk.
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