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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodyAllen View Post
    Mmmmmm. Millet. Gotta have my millet.

    The guidelines are intended for every human on the planet and, as such, don't work.

    On the other hand, 2/3 of the planet live on, barely over or under the poverty line. The other 1/3 generally eat processed crap and don't exercise.

    So its a more complicated picture than a food pyramid.
    I think you raise a really good point here woody. how is it possible to have a general guideline when what you eat it is heavily dependent availability and type of food which changes based on geographical region, social factors, wealth etc etc .





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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    I don't drink any juice or soda so to me that's a lot of sugar
    Depends on the fruit really. You can eat dumb shit like bananas, apples or oranges and yeah you'll have a lot of sugar. Or you could be sensible and eat fruit like capsicum, tomatoes, berries etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0ni View Post
    Depends on the fruit really. You can eat dumb shit like bananas, apples or oranges and yeah you'll have a lot of sugar. Or you could be sensible and eat fruit like capsicum, tomatoes, berries etc
    Plenty of dumb people out there though !


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    Quote Originally Posted by simo74 View Post
    I think you raise a really good point here woody. how is it possible to have a general guideline when what you eat it is heavily dependent availability and type of food which changes based on geographical region, social factors, wealth etc etc .
    Thats why itís a general guideline and not a specific food by food requirement of exactly what to eat.


    in reality itís better than what 90%+ of people eat. When I go to the supermarket Iím always amazed how unhealthy almost everyone looks and how shit the food is in their baskets.


    A bloke I work with from America has to travel the world advising people for his job. He says the only place in the world that eats as much shit food as the USA is Australia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 0ni View Post
    Depends on the fruit really. You can eat dumb shit like bananas, apples or oranges and yeah you'll have a lot of sugar. Or you could be sensible and eat fruit like capsicum, tomatoes, berries etc
    Yeah I know, bloody apples and bananas causing the obesity epidemic in Australia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by simo74 View Post
    I'll stop being lazy, this is copies from the WHO website

    For adults

    A healthy diet includes the following:

    • Fruit, vegetables, legumes (e.g. lentils and beans), nuts and whole grains (e.g. unprocessed maize, millet, oats, wheat and brown rice).
    • At least 400 g (i.e. five portions) of fruit and vegetables per day (2), excluding potatoes, sweet potatoes, cassava and other starchy roots.
    • Less than 10% of total energy intake from free sugars (2, 7), which is equivalent to 50 g (or about 12 level teaspoons) for a person of healthy body weight consuming about 2000 calories per day, but ideally is less than 5% of total energy intake for additional health benefits (7). Free sugars are all sugars added to foods or drinks by the manufacturer, cook or consumer, as well as sugars naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit juice concentrates.
    • Less than 30% of total energy intake from fats (1, 2, 3). Unsaturated fats (found in fish, avocado and nuts, and in sunflower, soybean, canola and olive oils) are preferable to saturated fats (found in fatty meat, butter, palm and coconut oil, cream, cheese, ghee and lard) and trans-fats of all kinds, including both industrially-produced trans-fats (found in baked and fried foods, and pre-packaged snacks and foods, such as frozen pizza, pies, cookies, biscuits, wafers, and cooking oils and spreads) and ruminant trans-fats (found in meat and dairy foods from ruminant animals, such as cows, sheep, goats and camels). It is suggested that the intake of saturated fats be reduced to less than 10% of total energy intake and trans-fats to less than 1% of total energy intake (5). In particular, industrially-produced trans-fats are not part of a healthy diet and should be avoided (4, 6).
    • Less than 5 g of salt (equivalent to about one teaspoon) per day (8). Salt should be iodized.


    Nothing on there that looks too wrong to me.
    The advice on fats is stupid, zero causal evidence linking dietary fats and heart disease
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    It doesn't mention heart disease
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0ni View Post
    It doesn't mention heart disease
    Then why specifically mention limiting saturated fats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by showdownhero View Post
    Then why specifically mention limiting saturated fats?
    Because that's what the current research indicates for general populations
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0ni View Post
    Because that's what the current research indicates for general populations
    What does this research indicate?
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