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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    I used to eat chicken livers.

    For some reason I canít stand the smell of them now.
    Why does this happen?
    I have never liked the taste or texture of liver.

    I wish I could eat liver, I really do, and I might try it again, as it is one of the most complete and nutrient dense foods a person can eat apart from brain and fish rogue both of which I can't eat either.

    Whole free range eggs are also up there, but again I am not a huge fan of eggs (I did have one this morning as my daughter cooked breakfast and cooked me an egg)

    May be I just don't like nutrient dense foods.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodyAllen View Post
    Not sure what you mean by "healthy".
    I mean good for you and nutritionally necessary. Do they provide you any benefit?

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    If you mean, "are veggies necessary to have a reasonable level of health", then the answer is "it depends...".
    On what?

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    If you mean, "will they do you harm", as you might ask "is smoking weed healthy or will it screw you up" or "is eating maccas healthy or will it make you fat", then the answer, as far as veggies goes, is "no" (obviously).
    Why obviously, I personally think a lot of vegetables are responsible for a huge number of health issues, including lots of mental health issues.

    I honestly do not understand why you would say obviously no. There is nothing obvious about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by WoodyAllen View Post
    So, getting back to the former statement, they will supply stuff that is not found as much in meat/fat only. But on the other hand, the more veggies/fruit you eat the more of the nutrients they contain you need.
    What actual nutrients that vegetable contain do you need?? Do you realise that the human digestive system is unable to access most of the 'paper value' nutrients in fruits and vegetables?

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    Fortunately, the human body is incredibly adaptive so as long as the food you are eating hasn't been phukked over by a corporation, you can relax about eating and health and start worrying about genetics, because once your diet is sorted that's what influences your age length and susceptibility to cancer and heart disease.
    I can't change my genetics I can change my diet.

    Do you realise that cancer cells in your body feed on carbohydrates and that most cancer cells can not survive in the absence of carbohydrates and sugars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    95% of kids dislike vegetables.
    Nothing surprising there.
    Do you think there might be something to this??

    Do you think there is a reason for this??

    Do you think it's because they instinctually seek out the foods that they should be eating?? (disregard processed sugary and man made foods that were scientifically produced to enhance dopamine production causing fake cravings in humans)

    I have two dogs, if I give them a tomato or lettuce leaf they do not even recognise it as food, I can even place it in their food bowel and they will sniff it and then ignore it. But if I place a chicken wing in their bowel they will happily devour it. I think that is because they instinctually know what they are supposed to eat.

    Are children similar to this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodyAllen View Post
    The most nutritious meat on the planet is liver. Want vitamin C? Pancreas has more than ANY fruit or vegetable.

    This is how carnivore cultures like the Inuit and some African tribes survived with no fruit or veggies of any kind. The fat and organs have all the nutrients you need to live, with the side benefit of not leaching minerals as do some veggies.

    When I see and hear whiney bitches carrying on how "icky" some type of food is, (hello @Grunta) it reminds me of what a bunch of soft whiners we have become.

    Man up bitch. Pull out your tampon and have some chicken feet. I dare you.
    Agreed organ meats and brains are the most nutrient dense food on the plant, I have watched videos where people have describes eating brains and liver as giving them a euphoric high.

    Personally I can not deal with the texture, I wish I could I would live off the stuff.

    I will try it again, they say eating around 250 grams of liver a week is enough for most people.

    Last time I had liver I mixed in with my mince meat when making spicy beef mince. That way you really don't taste it, problem was I knew it was still there. Your mind is a powerful thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunta View Post
    Horrible texture, and itís a filter
    Agree on the texture. But you got the filter bit wrong, Liver is probably the single most healthiest thing you could eat.

    Old time body builders used to swear buy it as well, I even heard of old time body builders blending raw grass fed beef liver with whole mild to make a potent protein shake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Mick View Post
    I mean good for you and nutritionally necessary. Do they provide you any benefit?



    On what?
    On whether or not you are getting enough necessary nutrients from your diet. If not, then you might need veggies to complement it, but the fact that people can do just fine without them suggests that they are not normally necessary. Hence the term which should precede any discussion on physical culture, "it depends...".


    Why obviously, I personally think a lot of vegetables are responsible for a huge number of health issues, including lots of mental health issues.
    I honestly do not understand why you would say obviously no. There is nothing obvious about it.
    Because if veggies were the cause of all those issues, then everyone would have mental issues. There is far more to modern health issues than just eating veggies.


    What actual nutrients that vegetable contain do you need??
    Well.... as I said, "it depends". If you are living on processed crap (e.g. poor people in England, most of the American poor, etc) probably all of the essential amino acids, fats and most of the vitamins and minerals.

    But if you are rich enough to afford meat (especially red meat) then you really don't need the veggies. See, it "depends" on the circumstance.


    Do you realise that the human digestive system is unable to access most of the 'paper value' nutrients in fruits and vegetables?
    Yes.



    I can't change my genetics I can change my diet.

    Do you realise that cancer cells in your body feed on carbohydrates and that most cancer cells can not survive in the absence of carbohydrates and sugars?
    Yes. Absolutely.

    For some reason you seem to take the stance that I'm saying that veggies are necessary for good health. They aren't...... if your diet is complete from an alternative meat source.

    For example:

    The Inuit. 80-99.9% red meat, white meat and fat.

    The Sioux and Comanche nations.

    The Masai.

    South American Gouchos.

    etc.

    In fact, if a person was to switch from a western grain centric diet along with all the process shit that the average Joe eats (just look around you at the shopping carts next time you are at a check out) to an all meat diet, said average Joe would lose a shit load of fat, improve their overall health and feel a whole lot better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodyAllen View Post
    On whether or not you are getting enough necessary nutrients from your diet. If not, then you might need veggies to complement it, but the fact that people can do just fine without them suggests that they are not normally necessary. Hence the term which should precede any discussion on physical culture, "it depends...".






    Because if veggies were the cause of all those issues, then everyone would have mental issues. There is far more to modern health issues than just eating veggies.




    Well.... as I said, "it depends". If you are living on processed crap (e.g. poor people in England, most of the American poor, etc) probably all of the essential amino acids, fats and most of the vitamins and minerals.

    But if you are rich enough to afford meat (especially red meat) then you really don't need the veggies. See, it "depends" on the circumstance.




    Yes.





    Yes. Absolutely.

    For some reason you seem to take the stance that I'm saying that veggies are necessary for good health. They aren't...... if your diet is complete from an alternative meat source.

    For example:

    The Inuit. 80-99.9% red meat, white meat and fat.

    The Sioux and Comanche nations.

    The Masai.

    South American Gouchos.

    etc.

    In fact, if a person was to switch from a western grain centric diet along with all the process shit that the average Joe eats (just look around you at the shopping carts next time you are at a check out) to an all meat diet, said average Joe would lose a shit load of fat, improve their overall health and feel a whole lot better.


    I agree with you, and yes I do look at people trolleys it's one of the things I do when I shop and I do 90% of the shopping in my household, my missus hates food shopping I quite enjoy it. Usually my daughter who is 15 and I do pretty much all our family shopping.

    Funny thing I have noted is that the more highly processed foods in the trolley the fatter and out of shape the person pushing the trolley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Mick View Post
    I have never liked the taste or texture of liver.

    I wish I could eat liver, I really do, and I might try it again, as it is one of the most complete and nutrient dense foods a person can eat apart from brain and fish rogue both of which I can't eat either.

    Whole free range eggs are also up there, but again I am not a huge fan of eggs (I did have one this morning as my daughter cooked breakfast and cooked me an egg)

    May be I just don't like nutrient dense foods.....
    Mick,
    You donít have to eat liver, just buy them at Maccas in the car park, or Hungry Jacks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Mick View Post
    I agree with you, and yes I do look at people trolleys it's one of the things I do when I shop and I do 90% of the shopping in my household, my missus hates food shopping I quite enjoy it. Usually my daughter who is 15 and I do pretty much all our family shopping.

    Funny thing I have noted is that the more highly processed foods in the trolley the fatter and out of shape the person pushing the trolley.
    Too true mate.

    Our total food bill is mostly made up dead animal, fruits, veges, and dairy. With a few small snack items here and there.

    Most trolleys i notice are built in the total opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeah View Post

    Most trolleys i notice are built in the total opposite.

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    Cos itís quite expensive living off proteins and nutrients, processed carbohydrates on the other hand are quite cheap in comparison
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