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    Ok,
    1. let’s call them Muslim ambassadors of their communities.
    2. Let’s settle for them visiting a church and laying flowers as a symbol
    would that symbolic gesture ever be done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunta View Post
    Ok,
    1. letís call them Muslim ambassadors of their communities.
    2. Letís settle for them visiting a church and laying flowers as a symbol
    would that symbolic gesture ever be done?
    Muslim leaders/"hypocrites' do condemn acts of terrorism committed by Muslim extremists. Here, read this:

    "After the 2004 attacks in Madrid that killed nearly 200 people, the Supreme Judicial Council of Saudi Arabia issued a public statement describing the assault as "pernicious and shameless evils which are not justified by any sane logic, nor by the religion of Islam".
    In 2004, King Abdullah of Jordan issued a comprehensive condemnation of terrorism signed by 200 Muslim authorities from 50 countries.

    In part it read: "Assault upon the life of a human being, be it murder, injury or threat, is an assault upon the right to life among all human beings."

    In 2014 ,dozens of Sunni Muslim religious authorities issued an open letter to Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Line by line they refuted the IS doctrine.

    The leaders said he had no legitimacy.

    None of this is hard to find. All the research is available online. All the public statements are on the official record.


    Just this week the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan ó a Muslim ó has denounced the terrorists for killing in his name. He has explicitly said there was no justification for the attacks and has vowed the terrorists will never win.

    Still some have criticised him for not doing enough.

    Accusing Muslims of not strongly condemning terrorism is at best a distortion, at worst an outright lie.

    The other claim is that Islam is at the core of the wave of violent extremism, as though somehow the religion is to blame.

    These arguments are often built around selective quotes from the Koran with little nuance."

    The irony in some of the above (as far as I'm concerned) is that this condemnation coming from a head of state (the King), is the most hypocritical of all, due to the way said country (Saudi Arabia) treats its own religious scholars (not to mention women) ... it would have to have a Ph.D. in human rights abuses, a gold medalist in all that is bad. Yet, president Trump refuses to condemn or say a single bad word about this Kingdom, all because of American's interest. Yes, money talks. Go figure ... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-...rorism/8606296

    At the end of the day, human life is cheap, very cheap, when you're blinded by power (as Trump and the presidents before him all were). Power rules, end of story, or why not cut ties (and bring to justice) the rulers of Saudi Arabia? Petrol is power too, hence I look forward to a day when technology moves away from petrol and gas and into electricity and something the Arab countries don't have, perhaps then we'd have some real justice served.

    Here's the bit on Trump and his stance re Saudi Arabia, after the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-...hoggi/10612330
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    Hard to dislike Fadi,even though theres a couple of contradictions.


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