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Bukkake Kunce
100% spot on, i couldn't have said it any better.
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Thread for religious people
100% spot on, i couldn't have said it any better.
Headley
BigRed Kunce
Did you know there is absolute proof that evolution is real?
It's pretty simple, you only need to get out on the street and have a look around to see it everywhere, especially in your pets; random dogs walking along or cats in your house.
Yes, it's selective breeding. I did it for years with Alpacas, worked to evolve them to a higher level of being and advance their genetics. Just like real evolution this artifically accelerated version let bad genetics die off in favour of good genetics, survival of the fittest and the best was the name of the game.
That was in a semi closed system.
Its not an artificial one.
Dogs comes from wolves, cats come from big cats. Species were created as an offshoot to their parent species and bent to their current form. It's elementary, its empirical and its fact. You now have dogs smarter than other dogs/wolves. You have alpacas with better fleece than other alpacas. You have cattle that tastes better than other cattle. It's all evolution at work. with enough of a population they would ensure their own species survival if mankind died out tomorrow.
And all this is within the last 1000 years or so.
How long has life had to randomly get to that stage? Billions of years. That's a long fucking time.
And don't get me started on picking and choosing what to say is a belief system merely because you choose not to see it, there's other more pressing things to worry about: gravity for one, radio waves, internet signals, the list is endless. You can't see them but they sure as hell exist and they don't need believing in either.
Evolution is reality. It doesn't matter who believes in it, it's still gonna continue on with or without it. Just like gravity.
The WHOLE concept and thinking of "God did it" is the single most laughable statement anyone can ever make. and born out of a need to provide an explanation where there isn't one. Each year, each moment those gaps are getting fewer and smaller. One day we found out that God didn't make the sun, hydrogen coalleced in the centre of the solar system and initiated fusion on its own! Does anyone believe the sun isn't real? Does anyone believe god created the sun?
People once believed it to be so and those saying God did it were wrong. So if you ever say God did it now, you will be proven wrong when its shown not to be the case.
And with all that said, if you are religious then thats cool because what you choose to do/believe in should always be your own choice and i respect you for making it. Just... don't think it trumps reality though.
I could go on but im sure you heads get the picture.
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WoodyAllen
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e·volve
ēˈvälv/
verb
- 1.
develop gradually, especially from a simple to a more complex form.
"the company has evolved into a major chemical manufacturer"
You seem to have the same common misunderstanding of what evolution is, according to the religion of evolution.
A simple form (or a complex one for that matter) changing from one species to another. e.g. A reptile changing over time into a bird. Or a single cell organism changing into a multi-cell organism capable of more than the original.
https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_06
What you are talking about is an adaptation within one species. e.g. A wolf and a chihuahua are still both dogs, despite centuries (or maybe only decades) of selective breeding. Or the Galapagos finches are all still birds. In fact, they are all still finches.
So, your instruction to go out onto the street and adopt your belief system is based on faith, not even on scientific principles.
Um, so, you believe in creation. That's naughty. The evolutionary clergy will be displeased.
You can see where this is going, right? If you were to go to a hindu and ask them about Vishnu or Shiva they would belief just as strongly as you and have a thought process the same as you. That's the point. You need more than just a belief system based on what's currently popular. You need it based on provable facts that stand on their own.
You are looking at the world through the lenses of evolutionary belief. That doesn't make anything a "fact". It just means that it's what you believe.
This is an example where you confuse evolution with adaptation. Adapting or changing without moving into a new, distinct species is not evolution. e.g. The blackest skinned African and the whitest skinned Norwegian are still both homosapians. An Inuit living in the arctic is just as much a homosapian as is a Kalahari Bushman. It's adaptation and selective breeding, not evolution.
And to be fair you would have to admit that you have some breeds of dog far inferior to a wolf or dingo, when it comes to survival. For example, pugs and bulldogs. Major breathing and ambulatory problems. Golden retrievers. Great pets but incredibly stupid. Or any lap dog. Unlike a cat which is very close in form to an African wildcat, from which they are bred, they can adapt to living without humans relatively easy. Fluffles the lap dog, on the other hand, would die in a week. That's de-evolution.
But again, you are confusing adaptation and variety with evolution, which would be changing from a dog into another species.
Yes it is, and I guess you are asking us to have faith that a fish changed into a bird over that time. Which is probably not as logical as believing that a statue in Italy is crying blood.
Yes, just like God.
Spoken like a true southern Alabama evangelist. Your faith is admirable.
Well, yes, we all get the picture. I hope you do too.
Just to be clear, I am not promoting ANY particular belief. I am pointing out that a common mistake with ALL people is to assume that their belief system is "the truth" or "a fact".
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WoodyAllen
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.... and a shit load of faith.
Those feelings that you have that you are 100% right? That's the identical feelings found in a Catholic die hard, a weeping "born again" at a faith healing rally, a Zen Buddhist meditating in a monastery, a screaming teenager at a Beyonce concert, a flat earther and a Muslim extremest about to push the button on that suicide vest.
And like all of them, you have no solid, tangible proof of your belief. Just that it's "facts".
Scientists are no altruists. Certainly willing to bend the facts when it suits:
Natural History Museum The Piltdown Man hoax.
US Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Research Integrity: Fabrication, falsification, and plagiarism in scientific studies.
We are all familiar with the "studies" used to prove anything for those with deep pockets to fund a study. e.g. Coke and their sugar studies:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmc...xercise-and-keep-drinking-cokes/#26e0e07b10aa
etc, etc.
When you have a religious belief such as evolutionism, any new "discovery" is massaged to fit into the pre-concieved belief structure. Just as any other religious person will massage information to confirm their belief.
I'm not saying that you or anyone else should not have their own beliefs. Faith and belief have their own intrinsic benefits. But as you would have seen when it comes to religions and different beliefs, the arrogance of certainty is often the core issue with contention, division, hate and wars.
Those feelings that you have that you are 100% right? That's the identical feelings found in a Catholic die hard, a weeping "born again" at a faith healing rally, a Zen Buddhist meditating in a monastery, a screaming teenager at a Beyonce concert, a flat earther and a Muslim extremest about to push the button on that suicide vest.
And like all of them, you have no solid, tangible proof of your belief. Just that it's "facts".
Scientists are no altruists. Certainly willing to bend the facts when it suits:
Natural History Museum The Piltdown Man hoax.
US Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Research Integrity: Fabrication, falsification, and plagiarism in scientific studies.
We are all familiar with the "studies" used to prove anything for those with deep pockets to fund a study. e.g. Coke and their sugar studies:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmc...xercise-and-keep-drinking-cokes/#26e0e07b10aa
etc, etc.
When you have a religious belief such as evolutionism, any new "discovery" is massaged to fit into the pre-concieved belief structure. Just as any other religious person will massage information to confirm their belief.
I'm not saying that you or anyone else should not have their own beliefs. Faith and belief have their own intrinsic benefits. But as you would have seen when it comes to religions and different beliefs, the arrogance of certainty is often the core issue with contention, division, hate and wars.
WoodyAllen
Well-known member
littlegerry
Banned
first off you re a dum dum head. Secondly ive researched this topic cos i believe in a Creator and i believe in evolution too to a certain extent.
littlegerry
Banned
you re the smartest guy here,no shit.
WoodyAllen
Well-known member
That's not very encouraging.
Good to have you back. Notice who's missing on the forum? Yep. The guy who accused us of being scum after having to admit that it was all a storm of bullshoot on his part. He should have been banned for making such scurrilous lies about us, but I guess in the age of Trump, it's all about who you know.
Somehow you managed to work trump into that post as well. Sounding a bit obsessed. Relax, he will likely be gone at the next election and you can move onto bagging the next person.
littlegerry
Banned
littlegerry
Banned
Life has only ever proven to come from life. Theyve tried so hard to create from inanimate matter and failed miserably. Even if they succeed they are still proving intelligent design. Atheists cant win.