I don't like the "iTunes only" format for Mark Bell's podcasts but I'm adapting to it. This one was interesting listening to Kevin Ross talking about mental discipline in training to ensure success in the ring. Mebbe check out some Ross youtube vids while you listen to it.

Episode 21.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...341346059?mt=2

Mark has a history of interviewing interesting people and his show is improving. You don't get as much of that "interviewer taking over" bullshit that happens in many other podcasts.