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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    You need hard work for progression. Some think it comes easy.
    ďOh itís too hard, Iím not recoveringĒ etc etc.

    Bah....dig deep, exert yourself, train like you want it.

    Take a fckn supplement, even if it is a placebo. A pre workout, creatine, beta alanine, Joe Weiders Inosine..Ino-fckn-sine, whatever.
    Ok, but if you progress as a result of more recovery then like I said goal achieved, who are you to say he hasnít worked hard enough, the discussion is moot.


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    Default 5x5 SL progress & recovery issues.

    Itís not moot.
    5x5 is not taxing. 5 reps hardly raises the heart rate unlike 12,15 or the brutal 20 reps esp squats.
    3 times per week for about an hour is fuck all. DOMS was non existent with 5 reps unlike higher reps.
    When I did 5x5 I added an extra day to do more accessories
    Ike calves, hammies abs. No probs recovering.
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    The only way for the OP to know if more recovery is the key is for him to try it and see what results he gets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by simo74 View Post
    I agree that recovery is key, what is your opinion on active recovery through light training to flush the muscles with blood ?? Worthwhile or better to sit on the couch ?
    whether it is a walk or run or a lighter workout recovery all comes from the same source.

    look I donít give a fat rats what he does, the goal is progress, if he trains everyday for 2 hours and his progress is consistent then heís doing the right thing (for him)


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    I will say that at 43, 2 hard sessions a week, works well for me. Give it a try.


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    Quote Originally Posted by simo74 View Post
    The only way for the OP to know if more recovery is the key is for him to try it and see what results he gets.
    Spot on


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    My take on weight training is you do it so you can live your life to the fullest I think this applies to most of us


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    Thanks to whoever said I was still 50. Been back this week with the program. I really believe it was the heat wave + a few really long days at work that knocked me on my arse. Had no probs this week and been adding the program accessories straight after the main work out.

    I am new to lifting but played competitive full contact sport since 5yo, grade one.

    One thing I am certain about now from experience is that you degrade physically as follows;

    Reflexes degrade first and rapidly
    Cardio capacity degrades next
    Recovery is next again to diminish
    Strength is last to go.

    Tbh I am stronger now than when I was a prime young bull even with my joints at their worst in my life.

    5X5 is far from easy as someone suggested, 25 squats of the same weight is taxing no matter who you are when you get to week 8. the fact every session you have increased the weight is not exactly easy. I am skeptical that anyone at any age at any level would not find that physically and mentally taxing assuming you started at the correct starting weights.
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    If 5x5 is good then 6x5 must better?

    Nope. There is no reason why 5x5 is any better than 3 sets of 5. If you hit 3 sets with maximum intensity, and you cant get 5 reps on the fourth set, then you have done enough. Go home and recover. 3-5 days recovery for squats and deads, 3 days recovery for the other shit. Old bodies need time to recover from intense lifting.

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    Bill Starr was the so called inventor of 5x5 he used it a lot when coaching footballers, he felt that these were easy numbers as he would often have larger numbers of trainees, so, nothing magical but I did use it a lot and I always finished with a 20 rep back-off set.

    this of course was pre 80ís more mid 70ís stuff, it was good, but you got to workout, itís not a restout you know.
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