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    Some Politician even calling for us to be allowed to carry non-lethal weapons due to Terrorism

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    Every weapon is both lethal and non-lethal though.

    tasers kill and they don't.
    Firearms kill and they don't.
    Cars kill and they don't.

    Anyway, it's good they are having a national amnesty
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    Yep, farmer browns kids might have found an unregistered shotgun in the shed after pop died, gotta get those nasty guns off the street.

    Meanwhile, in the real world, the people with and using illegal firearms continue to do so.

    Gun crime has increased since the last amnesty, how does that work?


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    Allowing the ownership and possession in public of guns by citizens works wonders. Cuts the crime rate down to zero. Knowing a potential victim is armed eliminates all violent crime.

































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    Rates of gun ownership in the states dont correlate with increased gun deaths.

    Having a pool in the back yard gives you a higher chance of death than having a gun in the house.


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    On the surface, the basic principle appears just fine, however....

    I wonder if Senator David Ean Leyonhjelm hasn’t set up this idea of calling for armed citizens, to crash and burn before it had its chance to leave the ground.


    Why do I think that?


    Because I have not heard the word “control”, neither have I heard the word “license” been mentioned by the senator.


    Consequently, this automatically leads me to assume that any Tom Dick and Jane, including wanna be terrorist, to be able to fulfil that wish much easier than ever before, all under the guise of “the right to self-defense/protection”.


    What is required in my opinion is a carefully selected group of people, (and that would be millions of Aussies), who would have to pass some sort of “entry” test, a test that would emphasise the privilege to carry over the right to carry.


    These millions would need to pass some intelligence test; psychological test similar but not necessarily as stringent as what our police and armed forces would need to pass, display a sense of responsibility and maturity just to name few attributes one would need to have to qualify. After qualifying, a sense of privilege over right would kick in, where any breech of these strict rules would see their privileges denied.


    Failing to at least consider the above restrictions, would ensure that Senator Leyonhjelm’s recommendations would more than likely be thrown out even before the public had a chance to debate this crucial matter.
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    what we need is the best possible intelligence, police and military capability. it is inevitable that the terrorists will strike in Australia, and we need to be ready.

    don't think loosening gun laws will help, but if chaos happens you can be sure that a whole lot more people will arm themselves.

    talking to soldiers at work yesterday and they told e they cant even wear their uniforms in Liverpool, a Sydney suburb. it is a sad state of affairs.
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    Why can't they wear uniforms?
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    Too much hysteria about terrorism. We've always had theft, kidnapping, arson and murder, whether it's done for money or for politics, who cares.

    The soldiers would not be wearing their uniform because someone ordered them not to. The military is the same as any other public service or non-profit organisation, they worry a lot about image. For example, when I was in we weren't allowed to go to civilian pubs in uniform. Civvies resent soldiers in towns with a lot of soldiers, there are confrontations from time to time, add in alcohol and it's worse. And appearing in uniform makes the confrontatins more likely. Remember soldiers are mostly 18-25yo males, even if they haven't been deployed they've done some tough things and been through some sht together, so they tend to be a bit cocky and loud and it's easy to start a fight with them.

    Soldiers getting into drunken brawls while in uniform, images appearing in newspapers or telly (or nowadays, social media) - the brass don't want that. Soldiers stick together, so if some civvies pick a fight with them, you end up with a picture of six soldiers kicking some guy while he's down on the ground. Or if it's an individual soldier who walks past some bunch of radicals (moslems, socialists, same sht) and gets beaten up, and then images of that appear across the country, imagine the fcking drama.

    Whereas if they're in civvy gear, confrontations are less likely, and if they do happen, less likely the story goes nuts across the media. Army doesn't want any drama, it's why they kept journalists out of Afghanistan.
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    I'm not advocating Gun Laws similar to the U.S. but the U.S. doesn't seem to have the smaller Terrorist incidents (outside 9/11 etc) that the European Countries seem to have do they? Are radicals discouraged earlier or does the fact that the U.S. has loose Gun Laws act as a deterrent.


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