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    Question Older guy starting home gym, advice wanted

    Hi peeps, I am approaching 60 and need to do weights for health reasons (plus I read that it's very good for older men). I used to be quite active when a teenager with bodybuilding, using Reg Park's routines (I'm from South Africa), so I know more or less what I am doing with the various movements and muscle groups.

    I intend getting a little muscle, nothing drastic, perhaps bench press up to 80kg tops. No squats (very big legs already, genetically). Have some damage to my lumbar spine (herniated disc), so have to be careful.

    Bought a cheap bench off eBay and assembled it last night. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality ... more than enough for my purposes. (Tried to post a pic, cannot)

    But when it comes to other equipment, I'm lost. In the 1970s it was all standard bar stuff, iron plates etc. Now there are olympic bars, most of which seem to come from China (e.g those for sale at aussiefitness.com.au and gymandfitness.com.au etc).

    The Americans seem to have an endless supply of quality bars at reasonable prices. But not so here in Oz.

    I need a barbell and about 80-100kg weight, plus a dumbbell and weights (non-olympic is fine, already have an old cheapy with cement-filled plates).

    The barbell is a once-only purchase, so I thought I should ask questions here.


    1. Do I accept that a ~$170 1500lb chromed Chinese bar with copper bushings and circlips (snap rings) is good enough for my purposes, perhaps even much more than I'll need? Or do I need to cough up for a more expensive bar, and if so, why?
    2. Do I buy the powder-coated steel plates from my local bodybuilding store (brand is "Force USA")?
    3. Do I buy an ez curl bar (Force USA) with hex-bolted sleeves ($79)?
    4. Can I use non-olympic stuff for dumbbell work (much cheaper)?


    Thanks!





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    Don't spend a fortune. Buy what you can afford. Not like you're gonna load 300 kg on the bar.
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    Don't spend a fortune. Buy what you can afford. Not like you're gonna load 300 kg on the bar.
    Exactly. It even occurred to me: Why not just buy a standard bar? Local store has a 7-ft 213mm 28mm-diameter Force USA standard bar for $60.


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    How many posts until I can post images?


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    Gymdirect.com.au has the best website for this stuff, lots of information right down to the tensile steel strength, which is missing from most other Aussie sites.


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    I was going to suggest gym direct. They have a 7ft standard barbell for $60 with a safe load limit of 150kg. That should do the job.

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    I was going to suggest gym direct. They have a 7ft standard barbell for $60 with a safe load limit of 150kg. That should do the job.
    That's interesting to hear it said like that. Most threads like this one are bombarded in other forums with advice to buy an Olympic bar no matter what. There seems to be a disdainful attitude to standard bars, or am I misreading the other forums I've visited?

    A standard bar is:
    1. much cheaper
    2. less to go wrong (no clipsals, bushings, bearings & other fiddly things)
    3. adequate up to say 100kg (some are adequate for much more)


    Cons are:
    1. they seem to have non-standard diameters (eg Force USA are 28mm and a lot of plates have 25mm holes)
    2. they overtopple if not carefully loaded and unloaded
    3. can't use them for movements where large weights are moved quickly on an arc, or bar rotated, because of stress on joints (not an issue in my sort of body-building)
    4. they don't look cool (which is tragic )
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    Id honestly look to get in contact with a guy by the name of Brooks Kubik. Or in the least read up on his stuff.

    Can i ask you please that yoi create a training log once you get going? I wont be the only interested in both the training and results/progression.

    As mentioned above, id stick to what you can afford, there will be no loading 300kg for big heavy deads or squats, and even 80kg on bench really isnt something thats going to hurt the bar. Do you research though, some Chinese bars really will fall apart on first sign of "abuse", where as others will take a surprisingly epic flogging.

    Good luck mate.

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    Id honestly look to get in contact with a guy by the name of Brooks Kubik. Or in the least read up on his stuff.
    Will do.

    Can i ask you please that yoi create a training log once you get going? I wont be the only interested in both the training and results/progression.
    Yup, was planning that anyway, simple spreadsheet should do it.
    As mentioned above, id stick to what you can afford
    Thing is, I can afford an Olympic bar at $160, which is what my local dealer is selling. I can't find any bad reports about these Force USA-style Chinese-made barbells, but then I haven't read through all these threads yet...

    But I am finding it hard to convince myself that I actually need a bar that has rotating sleeves for my kind of training. But I'm open to suggestion.

    Do you research though, some Chinese bars really will fall apart on first sign of "abuse", where as others will take a surprisingly epic flogging.
    Thanks Tim, wish I knew which ones are the bad ones!


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    160 is a good deal. And that bar will be fine 100%.

    You'll get enough plates cheap enough. Id probably buy a pair each of 20,s - 10's - 5's - 2.5's - 1.25's

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