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Good video - always been a fan of Jay - everything he said was true I believe - even when I 1st started training 13-14 years ago it was something that was not that openly talked about - besides maybe on some forums....people thought me and my best mate were weird for training even haha - now days as Jay said with the internet, influences like the Zyzz period etc - every man and his dog seem to be on it, and everyone seems to be training....
 
An interesting parallel article on use of drugs in bodybuilding. Normally I won't read stuff by this guy, as he is a knob, but this is quite interesting.


https://www.t-nation.com/blogs/bodybuilding-a-reality-check

"I was recently talking to an IFBB pro and he mentioned that some pros take as much as 60 units of growth hormone per day on top of 5000-7000 mg of testosterone or steroids per week. They also take a total of over 200 units of insulin (combination of long acting and short acting) and other products like pharmaceutical IGF-1, thyroid hormones, etc.

To put it in perspective, those 60 units of pharmaceutical growth hormone would be, by itself, about 500-600 dollars per day."
 
An interesting parallel article on use of drugs in bodybuilding. Normally I won't read stuff by this guy, as he is a knob, but this is quite interesting.


https://www.t-nation.com/blogs/bodybuilding-a-reality-check

"I was recently talking to an IFBB pro and he mentioned that some pros take as much as 60 units of growth hormone per day on top of 5000-7000 mg of testosterone or steroids per week. They also take a total of over 200 units of insulin (combination of long acting and short acting) and other products like pharmaceutical IGF-1, thyroid hormones, etc.

To put it in perspective, those 60 units of pharmaceutical growth hormone would be, by itself, about 500-600 dollars per day."


Haha that is just crazy - the biggest thing I took out of that video is that it doesn't matter the amount of gear someone takes - if they don't have the genetics, motivation, drive then it doesn't matter.

I am sure some pro's do take the above but alot of the time you would find these at the low to mid-range guys trying to catch the top guys.

$500-600 dollars aday is alot of gay for pay....
 
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