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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza20 View Post
    Yeah. It worked at the time.

    Shrek deletes the posts and then tries to manufacture the magic again. Doesn't work that way.
    I thought it was a serious thread. If not, post not-serious threads in the general topic forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosey View Post
    The reality is (I reckon) is that no one really knows why they do it and what for.
    for years people thought it was a good method of weight control.
    Still surprised at this. Yes it is an effective method of increasing energy output to lose weight. Why has no one mentioned the benefits to the circulatory system (as defined here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulatory_system), including strengthening of the heart and lungs and circulatory system to....you know....avoid heart attacks and chronic illness and premature death and stuff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Goosey View Post
    some think it makes one fitter, but for what?
    I just think "cardio" is an activity to become conditioned to the things we do throughout the week.
    So health benefits aside, why do we need to lift? To become strong enough to do the things we do throughout the week? To carry the shopping? To pick up a small child? Aside from living a longer, healthier life, what about the innate human desire to excel, be better at whatever we do, to push ourselves to see what we're capable of? This is a fundamental aspect of bodybuilding and power-lifting.

    I'm not saying everyone has to be Rob de Castella; I don't think many people would argue that a moderate amount of exercise that challenges the cardiovascular system (nae circulatory system) is not beneficial, and for those who choose to challenge themselves through a more intense cardio based exercise rather than lifting weights, good on you.

    And before the goose gets too loose, imo cardio, while by definition can be anything that raises your heart rate, is more commonly a predominantly aerobic form of exercise. And yes, aerobic and anaerobic exercise are not always mutually exclusive. You pedant kunce know what I'm saying.
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    The reason why no one mentioned that stuff is because it is plainly obvious to everyone except goose it seems.


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    Like poofs, once a pedant always a pedant. 😉
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    Like poofs, once a pedant always a pedant. 😉
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    Reading this book "body by science" and came across this, which is an excellent description of the problems faced in today's society in terms of "fitness" and "health";

    The first attempt to confine an adaptive-specific exercise-response relationship to the aerobic system gained popular acceptance in the mid-1960s and was formulated by Kenneth Cooper. Again, though, while Cooper brought forth some important exposure for cardiovascular fitness and a means by which a successful measure of this fitness could be induced, he nevertheless plunged in at what we now know to be the middle of a rather broad continuum, and his prescription has created a situation by which individuals are seriously undermining other aspects of health in order to enhance one lone segment of it—the aerobic system. Rather than being known in the future as the man who “saved America’s hearts,” it is more likely that he will be regarded as the man who “destroyed America’s knees.” Cooper started off the notion of “aerobics” as being synonymous with “cardiovascular” by attempting to produce a form of exercise that isolated the aerobic metabolic system. He believed that doing so would produce health benefits that were transferred to the cardiovascular system, and in a large measure, he was right. A lot of studies were conducted that appeared to confirm his premise, with the result that it soon became locked into the popular consciousness that “aerobic” equaled “aerobics,” which equaled “cardiovascular conditioning.” Over time, this belief has grown to such an extent that any activity—from walking, to jogging, to swimming, to cycling—


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    Continued - that is low in intensity and steady in state is now referred to as “cardio.” The term aerobics is actually his creation. It is not really a word with any formal definition, but rather a noun used by Cooper to categorize his particular approach to training. Aerobic, in contrast, is a word that has a formal definition; it is an adjective that describes a particular metabolic pathway and means, literally, “with oxygen.”

    The aerobic pathway is a segment of the totality of metabolism, but what is lost on many folks who exercise is that there are other metabolic segments as well that, collectively, work together to ensure the total health of the cell and, by extension, the health of the organism that the cells collectively work to support and sustain.

    Cooper believed (falsely, as it happens) that the aerobic subsection of metabolism was the most important—more important, in fact, than the totality of metabolic pathways that contribute to human functioning and health. He maintained that this one subsegment of metabolism could and should be isolated and trained.

    His belief in this regard has since been shown to be without foundation. The first problem is the belief that the aerobic metabolic pathway can in fact be isolated from the rest of metabolism.

    The reality is that metabolism is an uninterrupted whole that is intrinsically tied together. The aerobic machinery is fueled by the substrate pyruvate, which can be produced only through the anaerobic pathway.

    Even at this most fundamental level, the interrelatedness of what Cooper believed to be antipodal elements of metabolism is self-evident.

    Sorry, "Body by science"
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    Not a fan of cardio
    only do it to warm the muscles up
    i think people that sit down all day need it
    but if your active what's the point 🤕 Of wasting lifting engery


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    Like poofs, once a pedant always a pedant. 😉
    Keep it on topic pls.


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