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Low Carb Diet: Fat Or Fiction | ABC Catalyst
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BigRed Kunce
Absolutely. I think in the late 80's was when schools were getting aware of litigation issues and started removing playground equipment
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Goosey
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What old Chestnut you speak of?
jzpowahz
Well-known member
the high fat chestnut
This. Hasn't this exact one been posted before. Nothing new here.
Any diet that has you cutting out multiple beneficial food groups is very suspect right from the start. Sure you can live without eating carbs but you can also live for roughly 3 days without water, so who here is doing that? Because you don't need carbs doesn't mean it's better for you to avoid them either.
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Big Mick
"2014 - Kunce of the year"
Read this back to yourself, it is probably up there with the dumbest thing I have ever read another the the sky is green scenario from Bazza world.
Water is essential for survival, a huge part of our body is made up of water, we need water to hydrate if we get deprived of it but have everything else we will die in a relatively short time, we don't need carbs at any time, the body will quite happily live on proteins and fats, cut out all fats and metabolic function will suffer, cut out protein and see what happens. There are no benefits to carbs, there are no essential carbs, carbs are like someone else here already mentioned mere entertainment.
What multiple beneficial food groups are cut out?? And what exactly are these benefits you speak of??
Just because something has been manufactured and accepted as food does not make it essential and does not make it a food group.
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youve really confused me with this one Mick. You seem to be agreeing with bazza that we don't need carbs to survive, but do need water to survive, and then you say it is the dumbest thing you've ever read??
Life in general just sucks for me without carbs.
WoodyAllen
Well-known member
The problem is that the average dipshit is not an athlete and certainly not a gym rat. So, they see this sort of program then decide that they will add in butter, burgers and ice cream, without getting rid of the shitty carbs that they are scarfing down every day.
As Steve Moneghetti once said, he eats anything he wants, then runs 250km per week.
Despite the bodybuilder bullshit that carbs build muscle and that you must have carbs to "spike yer insulin, bro", you need carbs like you need a bosu ball.
Yes, you can have carbs. You can cut with carbs. You can get big with carbs. But they are not necessary.
Probably the only time a bodybuilder really needs carbs is for their pre comp prep the day before, cos they act so quickly.
I'm not saying you must not eat carbs. Lets face it, most "bros" are so brainwashed by the supps industry that they would inject squid ink if they thought it would make them bigger and more ripped. But if you want to approach the subject from a purely factual standpoint, then they are just a waste of excess calories.
No carbs. Shit yeah. Jon Anderson, the zero carb athlete…...
As Steve Moneghetti once said, he eats anything he wants, then runs 250km per week.
Despite the bodybuilder bullshit that carbs build muscle and that you must have carbs to "spike yer insulin, bro", you need carbs like you need a bosu ball.
Yes, you can have carbs. You can cut with carbs. You can get big with carbs. But they are not necessary.
Probably the only time a bodybuilder really needs carbs is for their pre comp prep the day before, cos they act so quickly.
I'm not saying you must not eat carbs. Lets face it, most "bros" are so brainwashed by the supps industry that they would inject squid ink if they thought it would make them bigger and more ripped. But if you want to approach the subject from a purely factual standpoint, then they are just a waste of excess calories.
No carbs. Shit yeah. Jon Anderson, the zero carb athlete…...
steveP
Well-known member
Sorry, I can't agree with you there. Just because we don't need something to survive doesn't mean there isn't a benefit. We don't need coffee to survive but it had a huge positive affect on the body.
Carbs are a fast acting fuel source. For anyone working out in an anaerobic state, it will fuel your muscles and replenish glycogen. Carbs also trigger an insulin response. For people who don't train and don't require an immediate energy source, this will trigger fat storage. But for people who do train, insulin is a hormone that will turn the body anabolic.
WoodyAllen
Well-known member
I'm guessing you did not watch the program. As it points out, the only athletes who benefit from carbs are sprinters. Long distance runners/cyclists/etc operate better on a high fat diet which helps the body to use the fat stores which are far more plentiful than a carb shot.
So, you are wrong there.
As far as "turning the body anabolic", that's one of those half truths politicians use. The "bro science" that you need carbs to trigger an insulin response is like saying you need a sledge hammer to knock in a thumb tack. Yes, you could, or you could just push it in with your thumb. Take in any food/liquid beyond plain water and you get an insulin response. Protein, fat, lettuce. It all has an insulin response. Sometimes the response lasts longer, sometimes it's greater in volume than other items, but it still gets a response.
WPI will spike your insulin nicely without the risk of long term pancreatic damage. So does steak and bacon. You don't need a cup of sugar to get a response.