Johnnie Walker
Borderline Kunce
not really. plent of oral steroids will cause liver damage. there for steroids can cause liver damage.
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AAS/PED Misconceptions
- Thread starter Fister Roboto
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Oral steroids usually contain an ester that is liver toxic on the 17 alpha position of the molecule. The steroid itself without the ester is completely harmless and would be broken down by the liver without the ester. Mesterolone is a common non 17 alpha steroid and is not liver toxic. So the assertion that oral steroids are liver toxic is incorrect, as is the assertion that because some oral steroid preparations with the 17 alpha ester cause liver toxicity therefore all steroids do is also incorrect.
Johnnie Walker
Borderline Kunce
lol are you actually reading the fucking drivel your typing?
oral steroids arnt toxic, except for the things that make them toxic? retard
oral steroids arnt toxic, except for the things that make them toxic? retard
Lold
Calm down. Proviron is an oral steroid and its not toxic because its not 17-alpha-alkylated.
Besides I clearly added the end of the "liver damage" in my original post "(injectables)" to avoid the annoyance of this part of the liver damage argument.
You're clearly incorrect, deal with it.
Johnnie Walker
Borderline Kunce
yes clearly haha
Johnnie Walker
Borderline Kunce
yeh and a couple g's of test, g of tren and 100mg ed halo for good measure wont cause aggresion
Johnnie Walker
Borderline Kunce
i used to lose my shit on this forum all the time last tren cycle haha [MENTION=8399]0ni[/MENTION];
It doesn't matter what I think. Opinions and assholes and all that. Evidence or gtfo.
Google Andreas munzer autopsy and body. That's enough evidence for anyone who has half a brain.
Some of the meds Munzer took prior to death (besides steroids):
ephedrine
aspirin
clenbuterol
valium
captagon-- scheduled 1 drug in the US, meaning no legitimate medical use-- it is an amphetamine-type stimulant--
cytomel
aldactone
lasix
insulin
Johnnie Walker
Borderline Kunce
the evidence its peopels own experience. i dont need a study to tell me that certain drugs make me more aggresive. called the real world, not some fuckin lab
nazzysmith
kuncesmith
Do roid rage Bish!
Not sure on how in depth your planning To go....but it certainly is the biggest main stream mis conception out there....
Johnnie Walker
Borderline Kunce
how is roid rage a misconception? its depends what your using.
pop aload of cheque drops and get into a stresfull situation and tell me there is no such thing as roid rage.
alot of it also the person and their ability to controll them selves and there temprament. hence when you mix alcohol in and peope loose that ability to controll them selves, roid rage. its that simple.
been times on gear my blood has actually been on fire, but been able to restrain myself and not lash out..because thats part of my character. if i was a dick head with no controll, or fucked up on drink/drugs..would easily be doing time!
pop aload of cheque drops and get into a stresfull situation and tell me there is no such thing as roid rage.
alot of it also the person and their ability to controll them selves and there temprament. hence when you mix alcohol in and peope loose that ability to controll them selves, roid rage. its that simple.
been times on gear my blood has actually been on fire, but been able to restrain myself and not lash out..because thats part of my character. if i was a dick head with no controll, or fucked up on drink/drugs..would easily be doing time!
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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018506X01917428
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0033318205700669
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...sCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false
What these studies are saying is AAS increase your response to provocation. They do not increase the likelihood you will spontaneously be violent for no reason. In short, as you would expect, they make you more dominant, more assertive in your response to aggression.
Edit: fugged up the first link, they're 4 separate studies though that all found no evidence of "roid rage". Roid rage is simply what lawyers use to try to mitigate the sentences of those people who are using steroids and commit violent criminal acts. Excuse not cause.
Interesting to note that stana was found to significantly reduce aggression, nandralone didn't increase or decrease aggression and test prop significantly increased aggression in response to aggression but didn't cause unprovoked aggression.
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