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    as for coaching himself, all power to him. no need for a coach if you know what you are doing. He won a few commonwealth golds, so he did alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spartacus View Post
    as for coaching himself, all power to him. no need for a coach if you know what you are doing. He won a few commonwealth golds, so he did alright.
    Oh yes, but he might have won more if he was coached right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosey View Post
    Respectfully I just don't know about this, I believe the squat and the sldl and their variants need to be treated as individual movements.

    one thing I don't like about good mornings compared to sldl's is the safety aspect.

    the bar quickly moves away from the midline, dramatically increasing the leverage, which ultimately Increases the resistance on the bar, loading the back way too quick for my liking , the other thing I don't like is the fact that when the back fatigues it's a lot harder to dump compared the the sldl.

    traditionally the sldl is done with stiff, straight legs.

    it a lower back movement primarily, and the lower back is not to be messed with.
    I hear what you're saying Andy and I understand your concern. I'd also be concerned if one turns a mobility movement into some strength challenging movement as when you compare these two athletes for example:

    A crazy/insane 225kg!!




    A sensible/sane 40kg (you can't even begin to compare the intensity of the [vastly] different loads).



    Having said that, I'm not suggesting for a moment people do an exercise that does not sit well with them, for whatever reason.
    1984 Age 18, BW 73kg: FS195kg, BS200kg, 162.5 3x10, PC 140kg, C&J 160kg. 1987 Age 22, BW 77kg BS 130kg x20, 120kg x50.


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    yes, but I knew the coaches around at the time. My opinion; he was smarter than the others.

    I think of other champs who coach themselves, current javelin champ from Kenya, and the great ed moses.

    It is harder, but some are just smart and don't need anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spartacus View Post
    mate, I was there at the gym he trained at. he could clean his best front squat, bad luck if you don't believe it.
    Great if you say so mate, you were there I wasn't , so I believe you. You and Bill must be in an exceptional group who could clean what they front squatted, I (and the majority) are not part of that exception. I respect that.
    1984 Age 18, BW 73kg: FS195kg, BS200kg, 162.5 3x10, PC 140kg, C&J 160kg. 1987 Age 22, BW 77kg BS 130kg x20, 120kg x50.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadi View Post
    I hear what you're saying Andy and I understand your concern. I'd also be concerned if one turns a mobility movement into some strength challenging movement as when you compare these two athletes for example:

    A crazy/insane 225kg!!




    A sensible/sane 40kg (you can't even begin to compare the intensity of the [vastly] different loads).



    Having said that, I'm not suggesting for a moment people do an exercise that does not sit well with them, for whatever reason.
    Your concern is exactly what I'm saying, the weight on the bar is moot as leverages and biomechanics will be different from one person to the next.

    i still think results would be better if both movements were treated as a mobility exercise in its own right.

    As you say; thank you for your input I understand where you are coming from and we'll leave it at that


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    for myself, although never that strong, I could also power clean 120kg at time, so it as rather easy for me to get in right full clean position without too much effort. it was almost like walking out of rack to do a front squat. my back was by far my strongest body part.

    my mate was opposite, he could front squat much more than he could clean.

    As for Stellios, maybe he never went flat out with front squat in training. All I remember was him telling me at training that 180kg was his best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C_T View Post
    140 back, dunno about front. but it don't train for str. never have.
    You train exclusively for hypertrophy but back Squat instead of front?

    I thought you already knew everything?
    S 200kg | B 160kg | DL 275kg


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