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Outline of Dave Palumbo's Diet For Cutting

Rugby88

I have Ep1c Calendar kunce
Alot of people (am bbers/pro bbers - general trainers) have used this diet with great success - I have tried it and honestly its very similar to what I do now (I do a higher % of fats) - if your focused and committed it can draw some good results -


The premise of the diet is high protein (about 1- 1 1/2 gram per pound), moderate fat (about 1/2 g per lb) and low low carbs (no direct sources of carbs). During this diet, the brain goes into ketosis (it uses ketone bodies for energy-- fats) and thus the energy requirements by the body can almost all be supplied by fats (which you'll be taking in plenty of). The only activity that uses carbs will be the weight workout which may use 40grams per workout. You will get these 40g indirectly through the foods you'll be eating. As a backup, the cheat meal you'll be having once per week will provide a storehouse of glycogen (glucose) in case of emergency. So, you see, very little gluconeogenesis in the liver will be occurring. If we keep cortisol low (by
restricting STIMULANTS) we'll ensure that muscle is spared!

HAVE YOUR CHEAT MEAL ON THE SAME DAY EVERY WEEK, last meal of the
day so you dont cheat again.

Fiber helps burn fat! Everyone should take fiber 2x per day. Fiber actually helps increase the absorption of calcium.
When following my diet plan (which includes getting your brain into ketosis), there can be NO starchy carbs eaten!



For a 200lb man:

MEAL #1
5 whole eggs (make sure to buy OMEGA-3 EGGS from the supermarket. They contain virtually NO saturated fat and tons of good OMEGA-3 fats); add another 4 egg whites to this (they don?t need to be the Omega-3 ones; you can use liquid egg whites)

MEAL #2
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoon of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar)

MEAL #3
"Lean Protein Meal": 8oz chicken with 1/2-cup cashew nuts (almonds, or walnuts)

MEAL #4
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoons of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar added)

MEAL #5
"Fatty Protein Meal": 8oz Salmon, Swordfish, or RED MEAT with a green salad (no tomatoes, carrots, or red peppers) with 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil or Macadamia nut oil and vinegar

MEAL #6
SHAKE: 50g Whey with 1 ? tablespoon all natural peanut butter or 4 whole (Omega-3) eggs and 4 extra whites

For a 250lb+ man:
Meal 1 6 whole Omega-3 eggs
Meal 2 8oz chicken with 1/2 cup raw almonds
Meal 3 50g whey with 2 tablespoons all natural peanutbutter
Meal 4 8oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut oil
Meal 5 50 g whey with 2 tablespoon PB
Meal 6 6 whole eggs

Remember, it takes 3-4 days to get into a strong ketosis where your brain is using ketone bodies (fats), instead of carbs, for energy. Be patient.

Many times I'll switch to an alternatiing diet where one day it will be protein/fat......then another protein/vegetables (very little fat). The great thing about the body and fat is that ESSENTIAL FATTY ACIDS can be stored in the muscle for several days, up to 2 weeks......therefore, once an adequate storehouse of Essential Fats are built up, the body can be "tortured" a little and it still won't give up muscle (that's assuming you're still taking in adequate protein. Protein can't be stored).

1oz almonds equals 6g carbs (2 of those grams are fiber) and 2oz equals 12g of carbs.

With the beef meal (any fatty protein meal), you should have the green salad with 1 tablespoon of Olive or Mac oil INSTEAD of the nuts. Only eat the nuts with the LEAN PROTEIN MEAL (chicken, turkey, lean fish)

The best fat sources come from the essential fatty acids-- Omega-6 and Omega-3's. Most of us get plenty of Omega-6s from cooking oils, ect..........however the Omega-3's are harder to get. I recommend WHOLE OMEGA-3 EGGS, FaTTY FISHS like SALMON and SWORDFISH and TUNA and MACKEREL, ALMONDS and WALNUTS have some OMEGA-3's (as well as OMEGA-6s). ANother great fat source is MONOUNSATURATES such as EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL and MACADAMIA NUT OIL.....they aren't essential but they are great for the metabolism (great source of energy) and they are extremely good for your heart.

You're not getting any indirect sources of carbs (just from the 1 spoonful of PB.... you may want to have at least one 1/3cup nuts meal. Remember, Olive or Macadamia nut oil is predominantly a MONOUNSATURATED FAT (good for the heart, but not essential)........ the nuts, and fish oil have the essential fats in them. Also, with regard to FLAX SEED OIL, the OMEGA-3 Fatty Acids found in them (alpha-linolenic acid) has a very poor conversion to DHA and EPA (Essential Omega-3 intermediates) in the HUMAN........therefore, you're much better off taking in FISH OILS (that already contain DHA/EPA) than FLAX SEED OIL.

Once fat loss slows, I always increase cardio first, then I increase the amount of fat burners (clen, cytomel, lipolyze).........After those other methods are exhausted, only then, do I play with the diet.

Always eat BEFORE lifting........never BETWEEN lifting and cardio.
Artificial Sweetners:
The artificial sweetener itself (eg. aspartame, sucralose) wont cause a problem. It's what some companies complex it with. For example, EQUAL and SPLENDA combine their aspartame and sucrolose with 1g of maltodextrin........whereas, in diet drinks, they don't do that. So, diet drinks are okay, SPLENDA and EQUAL must be used in moderation (STEVIA BALANCE is fine though since they use inulin fiber instead of maltodextrin

Forget using:
-MCT's are a waste when you're dieting. If you're gonna use FATS for an energy source, they might as well serve a function in the body. MCTs are useless. They can only serve as a source of energy!
-Arginine is not going to do anything. It will DO something; just not dramatic.

Cardio:
CARDIO should be performed at a low intensity (under 120bpm heartrate). This will ensure that you use FAT as a fuelsource since as your heartrate increase, carbohydrates begin to become the preferred fuel of choice for the body. When on a low carb diet, you're body will break down muscle and turn that into carbs. Remember, Fat CANNOT be changed into carbs. Therefore, for bodybuilding, the rule of cardio should be LONG DURATION, LOW INTENSITY

never do less than 20 min per session

The BOTTOM LINE is that low intensity cardio (while you might need more of it) ensures that fat is utilized and muscle is spared (especially while on my high protein/moderate fat/low carb diety).

Do you feel the treadmill is better for cardio, or is the bike(stationary or recumbent) just as good? As long as the intensity is LOW, it doesn't matter which piece of equipment you use

Q&A:
Q: Is gluconeogenesis inevitable in your diet?
Dave Palumbo: NO

Q: If so do I need to consume more than 1.5 grams of protein per lb of LBM so as not to lose muscle?
Dave Palumbo: The fat spares the protein....when the brain is in ketosis, the carbohydrate requirements are very very low.

Q: How much (percentage) of my protein intake would be turned into glucose (gluconeogenesis)?
Dave Palumbo: Very little (maybe 10%)

Q: What do you think of submersion in cold water as a means of burning bodyfat (thermogenesis)?
Dave Palumbo: HOCUS POKUS!

Q: How about drinking lots of cold water (I think this was even suggested by Elligton Darden) to help lose bodyfat?
Dave Palumbo: RIDICULOUS

Q: Do you think drinking lots of Green Tea is beneficial to fat loss?
Dave Palumbo: Somewhat helpful.

Q: How much is the ideal dosage of Omega 3 for a 220 lb. individual ?
Dave Palumbo: Try to take in about 9g per day

Q: How many Tbs of peanut butter could I have instead of 1/2 cup of cashewnuts?
Dave Palumbo: 2 tablespoons, two tablespoons of Peanut Butter contains 190 calories and 16 grams of fat (so 1.5 tablespoon equals about 12 grams fat) ...whereas......... 2oz (1/3 cup) almonds (about 40 almonds) = 12g fat

Q: I want to add that if I cant find the omega eggs here locally. Can I use international egg whites and just take an omega supplement?
Dave Palumbo: You can get away with 5 whole eggs (regular ones) once a day........not a big deal. You'll be burning up all that fat anyway.

Q: Whats the max cups # of coffee ( no sugar ) can consume on Dave's diet ?
Dave Palumbo: Try to limit to 2 cups per day.......I realize that towards the end of the diet you may need more to help you get through the day.

Q: If you cook tilapia in macadamon nut oil?do you coun't the oil as your fat for that meal! Depends how much you use.
Dave Palumbo: If you just grease the pan with it, no!

Q: what is the protein,carb and fat ratio for offseason
Dave Palumbo: 50% Protein, 25% fat, 25% carbs

Q: and the ratio for contest prep.
Dave Palumbo:60% protein, 30% fat, 10% carbs


Added by Kaz....

For women under 130lbs (60kgs)
Alternate 1 day on Diet 1..... 2 days on Diet 2 and then repeat.

Diet 1
•Meal 1 - 12 egg whites
•Meal 2 - 40g whey protein
•Meal 3 - 170g chicken with 1 cup asparagus or green beans
•Meal 4 - 170g white fish (fluke, flounder, sole, ect.) With a green salad with vinegar & mustard (no olive or macadamia nut oil)
•Meal 5 - 35g whey protein or 12 egg whites

Diet #2
•Meal 1 - 2 whole (omega-3) eggs with 6 egg whites
•Meal 2 - 35g whey protein with 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter
•Meal 3 - 170g chicken with 1/4-cup (1oz) cashew nuts, or almonds, or walnuts (vary it)
•Meal 4 - 170g salmon, swordfish, or red meat with a green salad (no tomatoes, red peppers, or carrots) with 1 tablespoon of olive oil or mac nut oil and vinegar
•Meal 5 - 35g whey with 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter or 2 whole (omega-3) eggs with 6 white

For women over 130lbs (60kg's)
Meal 1 - 2 whole (OMEGA-3) Eggs with 6 egg whites
Meal 2 - 35g Whey protein Isolate with 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter
Meal 3 - 170g chicken (or turkey) with 1/4-cup (1oz) cashew nuts, or almonds, or walnuts (vary it)
Meal 4 - 140g salmon, swordfish, or RED MEAT with a green salad (no tomatoes, red peppers, or carrots) with 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil or Mac Nut Oil and vinegar
Meal 5 - 35g Whey Protein Isolate with 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter or 2 whole (OMEGA-3) EGGS with 6 whites You should have a cheat meal once per week (in place of meal #5).

Macro Breakdown (Different to other Keto diets)
Fat 58%
Protein 32%
Carbs 10%
 
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I tried the female version last year to cut weight leading up to states, worked out to be a good template/base for dieting.
 
Hey Rugby, I been liking your posts lately RE Max-OT and this!

Good stuff!

Funny this diet is incrediibly similar to what I was doing!

im 92ish kg and doing 200g P / 100g F / 30g C

Thanks for the info RE low intensity cardio so it uses fat as fuel as opposed to carbs when the heart rate is up Mind you though if I was to do 1-2 HIIT sessiosn throughout the week and taking in 30ish gram of carbs per day... is this detrimental, or hoepfully it is still beneificial?
 
For the 200 pound man diet, I personally feel the calories are too high for a "cut"

I worked out my maintenance in which i work out 5 times a week. maintenance is from memory - 2800 calories.... on a cut I deducted 20% and this equated to 2240 calories.

I just punched in all the foods eaten for the 200 pound man is 2692 cals; 119 F/ 42g Carbs / 331g protein.

Personally I'd get rid of the last shake + 1 tablespoon peabut butter and 4 egg whites AND in doing so brings the cals down to 2230 with macros of 104 F / 32C / 261 P
 
Another thing I would like to mention is that natural peanut butter so far macro wise in comparison to avocadoes WINS hands down.

AVOCADO - 150g (half an avocado) - 150 calories; 14 F / 9 C / 0 P
NATURAL PEANUT BUTTER - 1 tablespoon (25g) natural peanut butter - 154 calories; 12.5 F / 3 C / 7 P

and peanut butter is alot cheaper than avocados too! thanks again Rugby!
 
This thread has inspired me to do a carb deload :p
This diet is so easy to prep for in regards to prepping food.
Im under 60kgs but found it was too few calories so went the 60kg+ diet.
 
Lol...

It's Keto with a bit of Broscientific-e-cations...

Oh yeah....... And clen for fucks sake!!!

Lol don't let your heart rate go over 120 bpms or u will lose all your gains... And don't eat before cardio...
 
just reading anything low carb scares me. I am amazed that people go as low as 10% carbs.

Why? :confused:

Lol...

It's Keto with a bit of Broscientific-e-cations...

Oh yeah....... And clen for fucks sake!!!

Lol don't let your heart rate go over 120 bpms or u will lose all your gains... And don't eat before cardio...

Why would you want to do such things as eat before cardio? Do it fasted - why fuel a cardio session if your trying to drop bf?

Please explain what makes this bro-science?
 
Why? :confused:



Why would you want to do such things as eat before cardio? Do it fasted - why fuel a cardio session if your trying to drop bf?

Please explain what makes this bro-science?


Eat before or after cardio it doesn't make a difference.
 
I achieve better results doing cardio/weights fasted. But thats a whole new topic and deserves it own thread.
 
I love how the calorie counting, IIFYM people say ohhhhh it doesn't make a difference - well yes it does and for what your doing it makes even more difference!

Example - train in the morning "fasted"/empty stomach - go do cardio and burn 200 calories etc - why the hell would you eat before that and fuel the cardio your about to do - i.e you eat 250 cals before cardio and you only burn 200 - so your + 50 cals - what was the point of doing cardio then?

Surprising the people that follow fads like IIFYM preach it doesn't make a difference when your whole thing is based around calorie intake - i.e you do cardio fast - burn 200 calories - would that mean you could eat an extra (lets say) 150 calories of something and your still in the negative.
 
I love how the calorie counting, IIFYM people say ohhhhh it doesn't make a difference - well yes it does and for what your doing it makes even more difference!

Example - train in the morning "fasted"/empty stomach - go do cardio and burn 200 calories etc - why the hell would you eat before that and fuel the cardio your about to do - i.e you eat 250 cals before cardio and you only burn 200 - so your + 50 cals - what was the point of doing cardio then?

Surprising the people that follow fads like IIFYM preach it doesn't make a difference when your whole thing is based around calorie intake - i.e you do cardio fast - burn 200 calories - would that mean you could eat an extra (lets say) 150 calories of something and your still in the negative.


Better never eat before or after a cardio session then. Wouldn't want to ever replace those calories.


Your worried about eating 250 calories then doing 200 calories worth of cardio. What about doing 200 calories worth or cardio Then eating 250 calories. Why is it different.

Like most people who fuck this up they are thinking about what happens at the instant. Rather than the overall for the whole day

Doing cardio is all about burning extra calories for the whole day. It allows you to eat more and still be in deficit.
 
Example - train in the morning "fasted"/empty stomach - go do cardio and burn 200 calories etc - why the hell would you eat before that and fuel the cardio your about to do - i.e you eat 250 cals before cardio and you only burn 200 - so your + 50 cals - what was the point of doing cardio then?

i always wonder how available the calories from the food digesting consumed prior to training are actually available to the body to use as fuel...
 
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