vonfram88
Active member
As the thread in the powerlifting section was closed, here's a continuation of the discussion and some of my thinking behind my original post.
My OP generated the expected range of emotions and had started to guide the discussion into a berth where most of the pundits were starting show some alignment or at least sympathy with the cause.
Sorry to drop Oni in, but my argument was cut short when the other thread was closed.
Oni, young buck, this is one of the reasons I started this thread. The policy at PA is clear. It does not tolerate drugs. Your statement is that PA has drug use. The majority of performance enhancing drugs that are abused by people seeking that little bit extra are also not legal.
I'm not having an Oni bashing session here, there's plenty of opportunity for that elsewhere. So I will thank you for stimulating discussion on the topic further.
The statement that a given organisation has drug use seeks to reinforce the stereotype associated with strength sports. When it comes from an insider the stereotype is amplified. The statement also "criminalises" the organisation and undermines the legitimacy of strength sports, since the substances that are abused are largely illegal to traffick, sell or possess.
Now if someone remarks about my physique or my strength and then goes on record with an allegation that I am a steroid user, then woe be tied to them. I will mobilise the nastiest mother fucker of a solicitor who I know, size up the accuser and then seek to take what ever worldly possessions they might own, plus public retractions in every mainstream paper in the country. I am not a criminal and I do not use that shit.
Along the way I would also refer to my stance on PED and the fact that I am a financial member of an organisation with clear policy that is recognised by WADA.
Now some may consider my reaction rather thin skinned and many would be so accustomed to it, that any adverse comment would be like water off a ducks back. Over reaction may also seek to validate the allegation in the mindset of the dweebs.
However, let's have a look a what is being alleged here;
That an organisation or an individual uses illegal substances to enhance performance, despite there being no test to support that claim nor any smoking gun.
That an organisation or individual is engaged in illegal drugs, a criminal matter.
In the absence of at least a minimalist policy on the matter, the shoe will fit and the organisation and its members can wear those shit covered shoes out in public. Every step is accompanied by a squelch and the smell cannot be avoided.
That an allegation of illegal drugs is involved might also attract the attention of whatever surveillance and enforcement task force that is presently being constituted to deal with the sports doping scandals.
The guys who enter your gym or your home or the boot of your car don't care about your status in the lifting world. Your bench press is irrelevant. They have badges and guns and their name is AFP.
My OP generated the expected range of emotions and had started to guide the discussion into a berth where most of the pundits were starting show some alignment or at least sympathy with the cause.
Sorry to drop Oni in, but my argument was cut short when the other thread was closed.
Oni, young buck, this is one of the reasons I started this thread. The policy at PA is clear. It does not tolerate drugs. Your statement is that PA has drug use. The majority of performance enhancing drugs that are abused by people seeking that little bit extra are also not legal.
I'm not having an Oni bashing session here, there's plenty of opportunity for that elsewhere. So I will thank you for stimulating discussion on the topic further.
The statement that a given organisation has drug use seeks to reinforce the stereotype associated with strength sports. When it comes from an insider the stereotype is amplified. The statement also "criminalises" the organisation and undermines the legitimacy of strength sports, since the substances that are abused are largely illegal to traffick, sell or possess.
Now if someone remarks about my physique or my strength and then goes on record with an allegation that I am a steroid user, then woe be tied to them. I will mobilise the nastiest mother fucker of a solicitor who I know, size up the accuser and then seek to take what ever worldly possessions they might own, plus public retractions in every mainstream paper in the country. I am not a criminal and I do not use that shit.
Along the way I would also refer to my stance on PED and the fact that I am a financial member of an organisation with clear policy that is recognised by WADA.
Now some may consider my reaction rather thin skinned and many would be so accustomed to it, that any adverse comment would be like water off a ducks back. Over reaction may also seek to validate the allegation in the mindset of the dweebs.
However, let's have a look a what is being alleged here;
That an organisation or an individual uses illegal substances to enhance performance, despite there being no test to support that claim nor any smoking gun.
That an organisation or individual is engaged in illegal drugs, a criminal matter.
In the absence of at least a minimalist policy on the matter, the shoe will fit and the organisation and its members can wear those shit covered shoes out in public. Every step is accompanied by a squelch and the smell cannot be avoided.
That an allegation of illegal drugs is involved might also attract the attention of whatever surveillance and enforcement task force that is presently being constituted to deal with the sports doping scandals.
The guys who enter your gym or your home or the boot of your car don't care about your status in the lifting world. Your bench press is irrelevant. They have badges and guns and their name is AFP.
