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Iron Alliance
New member
Without any form of weight training and minimal physical activity, it really shouldn't be a problem. If anyone's tried fasting before they should know the same feeling.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Christian
Active Member, June10MOTM
I don't know if that is evil sarcasm or not?
Goosey
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No, I mean it.
I think it's a great idea and i think it's great you try things, I'll be interested in the results, I would like to think and hope it is successful.
I like the idea.
Christian
Active Member, June10MOTM
Thanks mate, I have seen Alot of anecdotal evidence on other forums.. I have seem studies done on journals for and against so it's time to see for myself.
Plus I feel like a fat blimp.. I eat to recover because I'm addicted to strength but then the fat gain gets me depressed... If I eat less I don't recover and don't get stronger and that's depressing as well..
Will post measurement and photos tonight.
Plus I feel like a fat blimp.. I eat to recover because I'm addicted to strength but then the fat gain gets me depressed... If I eat less I don't recover and don't get stronger and that's depressing as well..
Will post measurement and photos tonight.
Anecdotal evidence of what exactly? A lack of muscle/strength loss?
Christian
Active Member, June10MOTM
I am hoping for 500g daily for first week.. I expect to drop to around 2-300g daily.
Hoping for 10kg
CaT_SPeW
extra crispy
will the weight stay off or will you just gain it back again?
Christian
Active Member, June10MOTM
Nothing makes you gain weight if you are healthy other then eating wonr crap wrong times...
Im old enough and ugly enough now to understand this. This is also for me to take the emotion out of food.
I have been so paranoid about losing strength and "omfg catabolic state going to die! $#^@$% " need to eat something every hour ect.
I will
- supply it with enough protein to function in my non training state
- supply L-glutamine to hlep prevent wasting
- be consuming all micronutrients/minerals needed to function
hCG will prevent my thyroid and testosterone levels dropping. I also have the added benefit of my weekly test enthenate shot.
It is only for 30days...
TrentZor
Member
this works ive seen it personally. Only thing is once your finished its hard not to look at that pizza and smack 2 of them down in a session. This will lead to putting back your fat anyways.
Mostly - BUT its your mental state that will go. You will start losing your memory and get very agitated at the tiniest things..
I better buy a bomb shelter on here in case u start raging
Mostly - BUT its your mental state that will go. You will start losing your memory and get very agitated at the tiniest things..
I better buy a bomb shelter on here in case u start raging
Dude why dont you just try a normal diet or something simpler like the warrior diet? (I wouldnt advocate it for most people but you really need to make things more simple).
Despite the scare tactics of most people on this forum I cant see why you cant come down to 85kg with bigger lifts and arms than where you started. Not lifting at all however with that kind of calorie intake is just asking for trouble.
Christian you always jump between extremes. Its either lifting 5 days a week or not at all, or a bulk with nutella and cocopops or eating 500 calories a week. If I were you I'd just do this:
- Lift x3 a week doing PPP and 2 assistance lifts. On 2 of your off days either sprint or do kettlebell work
- Pick a reasonable diet - either warrior, ud2 or a diet where youre getting 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight and minimizing carbs and stick to it
- Get your celltech sorted when you can
There is a middle ground.
Despite the scare tactics of most people on this forum I cant see why you cant come down to 85kg with bigger lifts and arms than where you started. Not lifting at all however with that kind of calorie intake is just asking for trouble.
Christian you always jump between extremes. Its either lifting 5 days a week or not at all, or a bulk with nutella and cocopops or eating 500 calories a week. If I were you I'd just do this:
- Lift x3 a week doing PPP and 2 assistance lifts. On 2 of your off days either sprint or do kettlebell work
- Pick a reasonable diet - either warrior, ud2 or a diet where youre getting 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight and minimizing carbs and stick to it
- Get your celltech sorted when you can
There is a middle ground.
Christian
Active Member, June10MOTM
That wouldnt be fun... Think of this as more of an experiment to disprove a hypothesis as opposed to anything else.
Your experiment puts at risk everything youve worked to gain and will be miserable to undertake.
unt0uchable
New member
Don't do it man, smarter ways to go about it
Christian
Active Member, June10MOTM
n00bs stop fkn ignoring me. What does the anecdotal evidence say? Did other people at your level of strength have success with eating 500cals a day of mostly protein + hCG and a few other supplements? As in did they have low strength/muscle loss?
If so, can you show me the anecdotal evidence? Links to forums or whatever. I'm actually curious.
If so, can you show me the anecdotal evidence? Links to forums or whatever. I'm actually curious.
Christian
Active Member, June10MOTM
I responded to you off my iphone but it didnt come up..
I can show you direct links its just what i have seen over the last 4 years. Different forums i have been a member of.
Alot of members who do things like alternate day fasting experiments with peptides ect ect.
Loo kaorund for some hCG forums and see what people have to say.