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[Article] Should Semenya be gender Tested?

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Tekkerz

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From The Times

August 21, 2009
They’re all freaks now. So why pick on one?

The South African champion is mocked for being too ‘masculine’. But elite sport is now the preserve of the extraordinary


Antonia Senior

No one can be this good. All can not be as it seems. This athlete makes rivals look like amateurs with a 20-a-day fag habit. You can’t tell from the outside, just by looking, although many furtive sideways-glancers have tried. He looks like a man, walks like a man, talks like a man. But is he a man?
Let’s test him in public, with accompanying sniggers and pointing from the audience. He will be humiliated, but at least we sports fans will know once and for all. Is Michael Phelps actually a fish?
The piscine evidence against the multiple gold-medal-winning swimmer is damning. The average man is the same distance from outstretched fingertip to fingertip as he is tall. Phelps’s wingspan is 7.6cm more than his height. Think fins. He has the long torso of a man 10cm taller than him, finished off with short legs and extra large feet. Think Flipper. Put the man in the water with a school of black marlin, the fastest fish in the sea, and they would embrace him as a long-lost brother. Yet we have not, so far, demanded the tests to prove he is all parts man and no parts marlin. Instead we hail him as a champion.
Not so Caster Semenya. At the horribly vulnerable age of 18, the young South African athlete has been subject to vitriol and innuendo, and held up as an object of derision. She has committed an age-old transgression; she’s too masculine in her appearance, too aggressive in her pursuit of her goal. She has committed the crime of not being pretty enough or girly enough for public consumption.
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Semenya exposed herself to this humiliation for the sake of her sport, winning the 800m at the World Athletics Championships this week. Yet her sport’s governing body, the inept International Association of Athletics Federations, has colluded in her public slaying, allowing the test to determine her gender to become gossip fodder. Meanwhile, her fellow athletes have been whipping up the aggression of the mob, which revels in baiting the odd one out.
If Semenya does have male chromosomes, so what? What exactly is the ethical difference between Phelps’s marlin-like qualities and her masculine ones? Where are the lines drawn, now that sport is increasingly the showground of the freakishly proportioned? Today’s sportsmen and women are fitter, faster, taller, bigger than their predecessors. They are colossi standing on the shoulders of pygmies.
Scientists at Duke University, North Carolina, compared athletes and swimmers competing today with those from 1900. They found that while the average human has gained about 1.9in in height, champion swimmers have grown 4.5in and champion runners 6.4in.
Usain Bolt, with his long femurs and extraordinary frame, takes 40 to 41 strides to run the 100m, compared with 45 to 48 for his rivals. Eddie Tolan, of America, ran a similar time to Usain Bolt in 1929 — but over 100 yards. Tolan, an Olympic gold medal-winner in 1932, was 11ins shorter than Bolt. The trend is obvious across a range of sports. American football players, rugby players, basketball players; they are all enormous. Huge. Massive.
In the early days of sport, when globalisation meant Empire, leisure was the luxury of a few. There was a smaller gene pool from which to draw athletes. In 1900 those miniature runners would win a cup and a hearty handshake, before celebrating with a sherry and a cigar.
Now sport is at the forefront of globalisation. Money pours into it, from governments, fans and business. The best can win extraordinary fame and riches. The sporting dream is not just about winning glory and honour, but about winning the lottery.
The oddly proportioned now find themselves caught up in the global trawl for sporting heroes, intensively trained like battery athletes, and spewed on to the world stage for fans’ edification. Now that the net is cast so wide, and the money is there to turn the freaks into winners, it is not surprising that we find the biggest and the weirdest and make them into athletes.
The route to success is brutal, even for those of the right shape and proportions. Those women athletes who begrudge Semenya her success have all sacrificed the usual pleasures of teenage life — hanging out, laziness, cheap cider, illicit cigarettes, friends, lovers — for the hope of a few fleeting seconds of glory. Most will only watch, breathless, from the desultory losing places. We are taught that hard work and application can win dreams. It is a lie. Hard work coupled with extra long femurs can mean that, if you are lucky, you might be, say, the fourth best athlete in your sport. You would still be amazingly, unbelievably good. Just not as amazingly good as the people better than you. All that time, effort and pain for what? As Homer Simpson once said, trying is just the first step towards failure.
Much of the science concerning why some people are better at sport than others is in its infancy. There is a camp in China where children are genetically tested to determine if they have athletic ability, but at present it’s more astrology than predictive testing.
When the technology improves, there are dangerous implications. Dictators love sporting prowess; the Eastern European women who were unwittingly fed hormones are testament to how much attention is paid to the athlete’s welfare in the state’s pursuit of glory. How far will this trend towards freakishness go?
Semenya, unlike her Eastern European predecessors, did not grow up being force-fed steroids. She did, however, grow up without electricity or running water. Once, the circus of world sport would have passed by her village without noticing her. Now, she has been given a lottery ticket. At 18 years old, aware that if she won she could unlock both riches and a new storm of wounding speculation, she stood tall and faced the track. That she ran at all is heroic and amazing. That she won is not.
 
If we have gender-separated sports, then yes we should test her gender. The problem is that gender is not as black and white as we normally imagine it, there are also sorts of amazing combinations of chromosomes, so we'll always get people who it's hard to slot into one place or another. Add in psychological issues like one born a man who feels themselves a woman and gets surgery, hormonal and cosmetic treatment to make them into a womanly - or a woman-born who wants to be a man, and... it gets messy.

I'm reminded of when Flo Jo won some race, they asked her how she felt about her performance, she replied, "I would have run faster if I'd been running against Carl Lewis."

So perhaps it'd be simpler if we just didn't have gender-separated sports. Let everyone race each-other, lift against each-other, and then no official needs to look in anybody's pants to see what's there.
 
I'm amazed they don't all go through a gender test prior to the World athletics.
Just like how they go through drug testing.

Although i think that article is going totally off plot with that Michael Phelps example, I think it is quite unfair how they're patronizing Semenya now (after the race) considering they did no prior gender check
 
South Africa were told to test her. They should have had it sorted before she had to tolerate this humiliation. Those involved in Athletics have known about this since she first competed. The question was raised in part because she only started training and competing about a year ago.

What would be awful is if she has spent her whole life thinking she is female, only to discover that she has a chromosomal abnormality. She comes from a traditional, small village. How will this affect her life long term?

Re Flo Jo- that is exactly what my friend said who competes in aths at a high level. If she hadn't been in that race, it would have been totally different and it would have been unlikely that the other competitors would have clocked the times they did.
 
Always know this: at the elite level there are two parts of information; one made for public consumption, whilst the other remains behind closed doors. The truth always lies in the middle only to be revealed (if at all) after a while when a particular goal has been achieved.

Politics anyone?!


Fadi.
 
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