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About becoming a personal trainer

Kyle Aaron

Active member
Kyle is lost
As most know, at the moment I'm a chef, and years ago was infantry in the army, some years regular, some years reserves. I love cooking, but when you hit your 30s you find that there are hardly any chefs of your age or older in commercial kitchens. People burn out, decide they want more sane hours for their families, and so on.

I have my own small business doing office catering, but lately it's been more marketing than cooking, which I don't like. So I'm thinking of a career change. I thought to myself, what's a profession in which age helps you? Well, teaching. But I wouldn't want to deal with hundreds of whiny teenagers. One-on-one, or small groups would suit me better.

Where do I want to go?
Now, what do I enjoy in work life? Well, in chef work I like to look out at the dining area and see people drinking, eating, laughing and having fun - and know that I helped make that happen. And in both the Army and kitchen, I've always enjoyed teaching people simple skills, seeing them go from incompetent to masters of it, and taking people who are really not confident, and getting them to do things they thought they could never do, seeing them come out feeling two metres tall and bulletproof.

So I was wondering what profession could I do these things in, and I was thinking this one day while lifting iron. Thus: personal trainer. Okay, that's the destination: how do we get there?

Education
Education, first up. I know a fair bit about exercise and nutrition from Army, cheffing, and my own research to help my workouts. But it's one thing to have a bunch of facts, and another to bring them together into a profession. Plus you need bits of paper to do anything these days.

There are few key things to think of. One is that there are two Certificates to becoming a PTI. The first is Certificate III (gym instructor). That just lets you hang out at the gym, show people how to bench press and that sort of thing.

The second is Certificate IV, and there you specialise in either Group Trainer or Personal Trainer. The group one is for aerobics classes, that sort of thing. The personal one is what most of us here are interested in, it's one trainer with one to a few people. This lets you take people in at the gym or on your own somewhere, assess their fitness and strength, discover their goals and tailor a workout to suit.

The thing about TAFE courses generally is that they vary a lot from one institution to another. There are a few core subjects they have to cover, like anatomy and basic exercise physiology (eg "the pectoralis major inserts on the humerus") then a whole swag of optional ones - it's up to them which they present you with, so two people going to two different institutions, one might know about (for example) aquatic training, and the other doesn't.

It seems that Cert III and IV each have around 100 contact hours, that is hours in classes. Supposedly it's an hour or two outside the class for each hour in class, for reading and study. You can do these hours full-time and get each Cert in 3-4 weeks, or do them part-time an evening or two a week and it'll take 10-16 weeks.

A few institutions offer Cert III/IV as a package, you do them both together in one course.

In addition, you need a practical placement of around 20-40 hours - that is, putting into practice what you learned in class and study. Some institutions offer this practical placement in-house, others expect you to go and ask your local gym or something. In-house is better, since some gyms will say "okay" and then just get you to do photocopying and making coffees for the day, doesn't teach you much.

Lastly, you need Level 2 First Aid. That's CPR, recognising signs of a stroke, stopping bleeding, recognising and treating shock, basic binding of sprains, that sort of thing. Some institutions just slot it in as part of Cert III/IV, others expect you to do it separately.

Prices vary widly, from about $1,000 per Cert to $5,000. Level 2 First Aid is $200-$500 on its own. I'm visiting the places which interest me. I think you have to balance cost with travelling distance, the facilities offered, whether the practical and first aid are part of it, how you like the instructors, and so on.

That's all I know so far.

Standards in institutions obviously do vary - just look at gyms you've been to, and how different PTIs are. Some are great, some useless, some could be great but seem burned out and don't care, etc.

I think some people enter the profession imagining they'll be cruising along with Ian Thorpe counting his reps on his bench press or something. They're not really prepared for the fact that 99% of clients are going to be ordinary overweight and unfit people with terrible diets who want a big change without any change, if you know what I mean ;)

Any questions, anything you can tell me?
 
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First aid 2-500???
That is nuts.I did it for about $85 if I remember rightly through
the ambulance service.
 
Looked into becoming a PT myself. Before I did any courses, I went a worked in a gym forst to see if I enjoyed it (already have a very expensive uni degree that took me six years, so don't want to spend any more on degrees I don't use).

Came to the realisation that I would throttle most of the people who hire trainers. All they do is complain. Always complain about things being hard, are reluctant to put in the work required, etc. I really wanted to help middle aged women in particular- those with kids who have grown up and left home and not looked after themselves in years. But even those who are paying trainers aren't generally ready to make a real change.

I've been fat, I know how it feels. But just came to realise that most want miracles.
 
Yeah, I'd expect that most would be a dead loss. Instant gratification, push-button society and all that.

I think you need to care enough to do your job well, but be distant and callous enough that if they fail due to lack of effort, you say "oh well, next!" Like a good schoolteacher. I think the Army gave me enough of a callous bastard attitude that I could manage it :D

But that's a good thought, to try working in a gym first. If I can make that happen, I will.
 
http://www.careerexpo.com.au/index.php

Find a personal trainer booth and ask them questions till thier ears bleed. If your not located in that state then find an expo in the state your in! They have them in SA all the time and I often appear in quite a state! hahah get it state quite a state... anyway.
 
Thanks Kindred, I'd missed your post earlier.

Actually I've been talking to a lot of PTIs and managers at gyms, and people at institutions, too, just to get an idea of what are good places to go - "good" in the sense of teaching me the job thoroughly and looking good on the resume.

It seems that the TAFEs have the best reputation among the PTIs and gyms.

Apparently education is like everything else: you can have good, cheap or quick, if you're lucky you get two out of three, but you never get all three. So:-

  • somewhere like AIF is quick: 8 weeks for Cert III and IV, about 240 contact hours and $5,000,
  • all the private colleges are quick - 3-4 weeks for each of Cert III/IV, about 300 contact hours in all, and some are good, but $3,000-$4,000 for the two
  • TAFE is good and cheap - a semester for each of Cert III/IV, over 1,000 contact hours in all, but will only cost $1,150 (plus some books)
Perhaps after doing Cert III I'll be able to get a part-time job at a gym to build up my experience and cash, then I can rush through Cert IV at one of the good and quick joints. In the meantime, I'll probably enrol at Holmesglen this semester for Cert III.
 
I wouldnt mind doing cert 3 and 4 just so i know what im talking about for a change haha. Wonder if TAFE does it via correspondence!
 
There are some online courses.

But knowing what you're talking about depends on you. There are PTIs with no clue at all, just visit any gym and see. And then there are unqualified people who have a lot to teach, and who get excellent results for them and anyone they coach.
 
Good onya Kyle for enrolling.

I love the idea of being a PT but not sure if I can handle the realities of being a PT eg. early starts, recalcitrant clients, etc. I used to tutor students one-on-one and while I generally loved the job, sometimes I just really didn't want to do it.

I currently work full time and study part time towards a professional qualification for my job, so I can't see myself enrolling in a Cert III too soon. Looking forward to hearing about your experiences with TAFE though, as I would like to do it a couple of years down the track.

bree - how were you able to work in a gym without a Cert III or IV? To me, it's a catch 22 - I can't get casual work in a gym until I have a Cert III - but I don't want to start a Cert III until I have tried working in a gym.
 
Whatever job you do there'll be days when you just can't be arsed with it, and people - colleagues, clients, whatever - who you'd rather not have anything to do with. You just have to choose one where you basically enjoy the process, even if you don't love all the details.

Legally - in Victoria, at least - no certification is required to work in a gym, not even first aid. It's just that if anything bad happens, the lack of qualifications won't help you in the ensuing legal mess. For that reason, some councils will pass occupational health and safety by-laws about qualifications, procedures and so on.

And of course, it'll be harder and more expensive to get insurance without quals. So you just have to hope that none of your clients are ever injured, and if injured, they either don't know you might be liable to pay for their medical costs, and/or they're happy with that payment and no suing you for more.

Like "counsellor", anyone can hang up a sign and call themselves a "trainer".

For example, there's this bloke Markos who runs PTC Frankston, he has no certificates at all, just experience. Apparently his methods get some results, though I imagine if there were any injuries he mightn't tell us about them.

So if you are well-known to and well-trusted by the gym staff, it'd be possible to get some work at a gym. The certificate is just a symbol of being trustworthy which is accepted everywhere - well, probably not accepted by those who don't get one and think you don't need one, or who only met people trained by AIF :D
 
Fair enough. which reminds me, I've always wanted to work in my rockclimbing gym! (plus you get to climb for free) And I'm pretty much correcting at least one belayer every time I go (the belayer is the person responsible for the safety of the one who's climbing)

But I digress. Have you thought about how you're going to get your first clients?
 
I know about the belayer, I've done a very little bit of climbing in the Army and NZ, and once tore a hamstring landing badly on a slide down from a helicopter!

I'm sure there must be certificates for abseiling and the like, they have them for everything. Go for it, Katie! Just remember that it's a different feeling doing something as a hobby and doing it for money by someone else's schedule :)

I intend to go and be employed by a gym. If I wanted to chase clients from a base of none I could just stick with my office catering business. That's a pain. I'd rather be doing the job than recruiting people so I can do the job.

A search just now at seek.com.au shows up 3 jobs for gym instructor, and 124 for personal trainer. However, some of the personal trainer ones are not really jobs, just invitations for you to set up business at their gym, or marketing jobs, etc. As for the gym instructor jobs, there are a lot more than 3 available.

Many community and university gyms never advertise on seek or other than on their or their council's website. For example, Monash council area currently advertises jobs for gym instructors, but you won't find those listed at seek or in the paper. Judging by the faces changing at the two community gyms I've been at, it's like my current profession of hospitality - lots of people don't stay long, so they're always hiring.

If I can't get employment with just Cert III, that's alright, I'll go and do the Cert IV. I want to do Cert IV anyway, it's just a matter of when. There's also a Cert in nutrition which I can look at down the track, that should complement my cooking nicely. "Look, you don't have to live on plain cottage cheese and tuna..."
 
So, the full details,

  • Holmesglen TAFE, Melbourne
  • Certificate III (Fitness, gym instructor)
    • Course cost $500
    • Service fee (the old student union fee), $75
    • Course materials (textbooks) $130
  • Thus total $705. The materials and services fees must be paid on enrolment day ($205), but the course fee can be paid in four installments.
  • Runs 2009-07-13 to 2009-11-20
  • Classes Mon 0900-1600, Tue 0900-1600, Wed 0900-1200
  • Course includes First Aid Level 2
  • Course does not include 20hr work placement, which the student must sort out for themselves, but if you are really hopeless they'll get you a placement at the campus gym
You won't believe how long it took me to find all that out. I think dealing with the educational bureaucracy is your entrance exam.
 
Gyms very rarely advertise for training and instructing staff. Starting off with your Cert III, if you are looking for classes, all gyms have a list if instructors that they keep and call on when needed. Normally the only way you'll pick up a class off a regular instructor is if you have been filling in and get a good rep. If another instructor's class numbers drop off, they dump them and will replace with a more popular instructor. I have never come across an instructor that isn't a co-ordinator that is hired by the gym. With a Cert III, might get a job in a community gym supervising the floor.

Also remember that you have to get your insuance to be a PT. Also need to have a certain amount of points each couple of years to keep your certification current, otherwise they won't insure you.

Average life span of someone in the fitness industry is 18 months, but those with more life experience tend to hang around sooner. Older people don't go in with the blinkers on!

I worked as a sales and marketing manager in a fancy women's gym in Sydney. Small operations mean that you can see every part of how a gym works. Had to deal with instructors, members, trainers- the lot!
 
I wouldnt mind doing cert 3 and 4 just so i know what im talking about for a change haha. Wonder if TAFE does it via correspondence!

I`ve done cert.3 and it was good but I can honestly say I didn`t learn a lot
that I already knew or could/would have learnt with experience and research on my own.The dude at the gym who mentored me was a top bloke and I learnt a hell of a lot from him.
The certificate looks good with all my others though and it is a stepping stone to where I want to get to.I am still studying various things by correspondence
but if you just want to learn get a few books.
 
Schools sucks, I've always thought that.
I'm so suprised I made it to the end of high school year 12.
The best education you can get is real life experience.
Self education is great, but not in a structured school environment, in my opinion.

For me, I would do the shortest course available and get the rest of the experience in real life.

There are so many people today who are multiple degree holders, all theory but no practice.
 
Schools sucks, I've always thought that.
I'm so suprised I made it to the end of high school year 12.
The best education you can get is real life experience.
Self education is great, but not in a structured school environment, in my opinion.
Agree.A uni degree with no experience will still only get you an entry level job.
Get a job in a related field and study correspondence or go to school at nights/part time.Work your way up both ladders at once.
 
There are so many people today who are multiple degree holders, all theory but no practice.

And with the financial collapse all these braniacs are in the dole queue because they are overqualified and underexperienced.Even Maccas won`t give them a job.
Who`s laughing now?!
 
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