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uppon2
08-05-2013, 08:23 PM
This was held at Limbos Gym in Adelaide and I attended because my mate Laurie Bates was competing and did quite well. Well done to everybody who competed and attended. If anybody wants the women's results CLICK HERE (http://ausbb.com/power-lifting/23156-capo-5-5-2013-limbo-gym-results.html#post454160)

Mens Results:

*NOTE* R, RP, E stands for Raw, Raw Plus and Equipped. WD stands for Weight Division and BW stands for Body Weight. All weight is measured in KG

Firas El Achker

AGE: CAT: WD: BW: R,RP,E:
20 4 110 NIL E

SQ BP DL

1. 75 1. 75 1. 75

2. NIL 2. NIL 2. NIL

3. NIL 3. NIL 3. NIL

TOTAL: 126.82


Fransisco Dullona

AGE: CAT: WD: BW: R,RP,E:
40 7 67.5 63.7 R,RP

SQ BP DL

1. 120 1. NIL 1. 145

2. 125 2. 95 2. 150

3. 130 3. FAIL 3. 155

TOTAL: 299.21


Tim Armistead

AGE: CAT: WD: BW: R,RP,E:
26 4 100 97 R,RP

SQ BP DL

1. 160 1. 120 1. 210

2. 170 2. 125 2. 220

3. 180 3. FAIL 3. 230

TOTAL: 315.17


Laurie Bates

AGE: CAT: WD: BW: R,RP,E:
27 5 82.5 82.5 RP

SQ BP DL

1. 170 1. 130 1. 200

2. 190 2. 145 2. 220

3. 205 3. FAIL 3. 242.5

TOTAL:


David Toomer

AGE: CAT: WD: BW: R,RP,E:
25 5 140 NIL R

SQ BP DL

1. 220 1. 170 1. 290

2. NIL 2. 180 2. 317.5

3. NIL 3. 190 3. 322.5

TOTAL: 396.50


Michael Toomer

AGE: CAT: WD: BW: R,RP,E:
23 5 110 NIL R

SQ BP DL

1. 220 1. 150 1. 260

2. NIL 2. 160 2. 270

3. NIL 3. 165 3. 280

TOTAL: 374.06

Bench Polkov
08-05-2013, 08:25 PM
WTF @ Fuzzy's results?

The Hamburgler
08-05-2013, 08:27 PM
To qualify for Hobart

uppon2
08-05-2013, 08:29 PM
He pretended to be shaking too. Was funny, the guy is a beast. He also did it because nobody else was in the that division so he won it and still got prizes too. Was amusing

Bench Polkov
08-05-2013, 08:32 PM
Fucking Fuzz, lol.

uppon2
08-05-2013, 08:32 PM
I didn't realise there was the images so for the women's results please see attached file. I spoke with Yolandie Weir and she was incredibly down to earth and so friendly. She broke some AUS records and so did a few other girls and guys.

strong enough?
09-05-2013, 10:19 AM
Seriously, having to do token lifts sucks. It demeans the sport and takes up everyone's time. Surely the rules can be changed to allow a discretion for top lifters to qualify without having to do a token comp?

Sticky
09-05-2013, 10:22 AM
No, they should be made to compete and not allowed to do tokens.

Nothing annoys me more.

strong enough?
09-05-2013, 10:24 AM
or that. I agree. I also think you shouldn't be able to set individual lift records if you do a token other lift (eg squat 60kg to save yourself for deadlift).

wingman
09-05-2013, 10:25 AM
or that. I agree. I also think you shouldn't be able to set individual lift records if you do a token other lift (eg squat 60kg to save yourself for deadlift).

Completely agree. At WA States we had a couple of people do 60kg squats and deadlifts so that they could set bench records.

lkt004
09-05-2013, 10:25 AM
So if someone has an injured pec/tri they can't set bench/deadlift records because they have to take a token lift?

strong enough?
09-05-2013, 10:32 AM
Lifts should be a genuine attempt. It should be obvious what a genuine attempt is, having regard to the lifter's past lifts and physical condition.

lkt004
09-05-2013, 10:42 AM
That becomes difficult to monitor in itself, i think token lifts should be allowed, because in the end it's the total that matters. All well and good to bench 250kg then total 500, the guy who totals 502.5kg with a 100kg bench is still the stronger competitor.

Sticky
09-05-2013, 11:02 AM
I don't agree.

I worked hard for my 302.5kg deadlift, even hitting a PR in the squat.

If someone went 60/60/305 I'd call them out.

It's weak. Very weak.

You can't enforce a rule, but I wish I could work out how.

wingman
09-05-2013, 11:10 AM
I don't agree.

I worked hard for my 302.5kg deadlift, even hitting a PR in the squat.

If someone went 60/60/305 I'd call them out.

It's weak. Very weak.

You can't enforce a rule, but I wish I could work out how.

If there were more single lift events people would use them for getting records?

lkt004
09-05-2013, 11:12 AM
Single lift records don't count in the three lift records.

strong enough?
09-05-2013, 11:13 AM
FWIW, the IPF doesn't have a genuine attempt rule for squat and deadlift records, but they do for (a) bench press WRs; and (b) individual lift medals at international events.

You can't set a bench press WR in a 3 lift comp, or eg get a gold medal for deadlift, unless you make a "bona fide attempt" in each discipline.

A bona fide attempt is one of those things that's hard to define but you know it when you see it.

The Hamburgler
09-05-2013, 11:19 AM
I can remember Luke Vella taking token lifts at CAPO Nats 2011 to set a deadlift world record . . .

He bombed

Won't say he deserved to bomb, but in hindsight I can't say I'm all that sympathetic

spartacus
09-05-2013, 11:52 AM
I am with Sticky and Strong Enough,it is an embarassment it is allowed to happen

Sumo
09-05-2013, 11:52 AM
I can remember Luke Vella taking token lifts at CAPO Nats 2011 to set a deadlift world record . . .

He bombed

Won't say he deserved to bomb, but in hindsight I can't say I'm all that sympathetic

I must admit I wasn't very sympathetic either - I thought that was poetic justice actually.

NAPARM
09-05-2013, 12:10 PM
At least CAPO has qualifying standards for Open lifters.

spartacus
09-05-2013, 12:14 PM
The easy way around problem is to make qualifying total occur in same year as nationals.

Perhaps an exception could be for a lifter if injured, and he or she has qualified previous year.

The other week i reffed at a novice comp in Albury; it was more fair dinkum than last year's Riverina champs overall given quite a few last year merely lifted what they needed to qualify with many 60kg lifts.

Who really wants to watch token lifts. Bottom line is gaining support, not pissing spectators off.

I had a few girls comment on how good their first comp was to watch as spectators the other week. If they saw lots of token lifts, i suspect they would just laugh.

Stonelifter
09-05-2013, 12:29 PM
You can't enforce a rule, but I wish I could work out how.

Easy enough, you implement a rule you must reach a minimum total in your weight class to qualify for nationals. Whats the point of having a state competition where you can get away with token lifts.

Stonelifter
09-05-2013, 12:34 PM
At least CAPO has qualifying standards for Open lifters.

This was a CAPO comp?

Sticky
09-05-2013, 12:38 PM
Easy enough, you implement a rule you must reach a minimum total in your weight class to qualify for nationals. Whats the point of having a state competition where you can get away with token lifts.

That doesn't solve the issue.

Capo have qualifying totals, still token lifts on weekend.

Hoc doesn't, no tokens (that I can think of) at ours.

That said, there was a guy doing tokens at GPC WA.

IMO if you have qualifying totals, they should be high enough that you have to be a power lifter to meet them.
Currently the PA and capo ones are very low.

NAPARM
09-05-2013, 12:39 PM
This was a CAPO comp?

Yeah but if you're a teenager, junior, master or woman you only have to post a total. If you're an Open man you need to hit the qualifying total to lift at Nats.
Personally I think there should be qualifying totals applied to every lifter.

Sticky
09-05-2013, 12:39 PM
At least CAPO has qualifying standards for Open lifters.

Lol.

This isn't a dig at capo Dave, it happens in all Feds unfortunately.
No need to jump into defense mode.

Sticky
09-05-2013, 12:40 PM
Yeah but if you're a teenager, junior, master or woman you only have to post a total. If you're an Open man you need to hit reach the qualifying total to lift at Nats.
Personally I think there should be qualifying totals applied to every lifter.

Me too.
Class 1 or 2 for opens
2 or 3 for juniors
3 or 4 for women and teens.

NAPARM
09-05-2013, 12:42 PM
CAPO ones aren't too bad this year - 565 @ 90 (proper raw) for example.

Sticky
09-05-2013, 12:44 PM
Yeah that's not to bad actually.

Have they gone up?

The last pa ones I saw for PA were a joke.

strong enough?
09-05-2013, 12:47 PM
PA is
open - B grade
junior - C grade
subjunior - D grade
masters - any total

I agree they are fairly low and could afford to be open (A), junior (B), subjunior (C), masters (B). It's a balancing act between quality and the size of the comp. When you get enough people, you make it harder to qualify.

NAPARM
09-05-2013, 12:50 PM
Yeah that's not to bad actually.

Have they gone up?

The last pa ones I saw for PA were a joke.

Think they might have mate, can't even remember what they were last year.
It's tricky when you've got an injured lifter but, I'm not sure if CAPO make any allowances for injuries. I'm a bit broken at the moment & will only be doing the bare minimum to qualify on Saturday.

spartacus
09-05-2013, 12:54 PM
I agree masters should have qualification, but wondering if numbers are important in terms of entry fees and paying venue.

Stonelifter
09-05-2013, 12:55 PM
Think they might have mate, can't even remember what they were last year.
It's tricky when you've got an injured lifter but, I'm not sure if CAPO make any allowances for injuries. I'm a bit broken at the moment & will only be doing the bare minimum to qualify on Saturday.

Still going to pull 300+?

NAPARM
09-05-2013, 12:57 PM
Still going to pull 300+?

Haha not even close mate! Back is fucked so just pull what I need to hit the minimum qualifying total.

Stonelifter
09-05-2013, 12:59 PM
Haha not even close mate! Back is fucked so just pull what I need to hit the minimum qualifying total.

You hurt it again, or is this an ongoing thing? I screwed my shoulder at Giants Live, causing me all sorts of greif :( :(

Bench Polkov
09-05-2013, 01:00 PM
PA is
open - B grade
junior - C grade
subjunior - D grade
masters - any total

I agree they are fairly low and could afford to be open (A), junior (B), subjunior (C), masters (B). It's a balancing act between quality and the size of the comp. When you get enough people, you make it harder to qualify.

PA's were meant to go up this year but apparently they left it too late the make the announcement. So things might be different next year.

Sticky
09-05-2013, 01:00 PM
I agree masters should have qualification, but wondering if numbers are important in terms of entry fees and paying venue.


That's the issue with qualifying.

I'd have a 630-650 for 90kg class which is a good 80kg higher than capo and a shit ton higher than PA, but then you cut the number of lifters from 150 to 60 odd.

That means everything gets down scaled.

As a meet director and competitor, I'd rather have no qualifying total at all, and loads of lifters so I could put on an awesome event.

NAPARM
09-05-2013, 01:03 PM
You hurt it again, or is this an ongoing thing? I screwed my shoulder at Giants Live, causing me all sorts of greif :( :(

Ongoing mate, had X-rays the other day & I have a compressed disc in my lower back & my pelvis is tilted & rotated :( Soon as I go above 260ish on deads it tweaks my back. No heavy deads till Nats it looks like.
Hope you can get your shoulder sorted mate, injuries suck!!!

wingman
09-05-2013, 01:07 PM
Haha not even close mate! Back is fucked so just pull what I need to hit the minimum qualifying total.

Oh, like a token? :p

NAPARM
09-05-2013, 01:09 PM
Oh, like a token? :p

Yep a 230kg token deadlift :)

Stonelifter
09-05-2013, 01:14 PM
Ongoing mate, had X-rays the other day & I have a compressed disc in my lower back & my pelvis is tilted & rotated :(

Same thing happened with with my pelvis, caused me huge pain in my back. Turned out my hamstrings were causing it all. Heaps of stretching and massage sorted it out.