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Shrek
23-07-2011, 01:30 PM
Police say at least 80 people have been killed in a shooting spree at the youth camp of Norway's Labour Party

Police director Oystein Maeland told reporters early on Saturday they had discovered many more victims after initially reporting the death toll at 10.

Maeland couldn't say how many people were injured in the shooting.

Hundreds of youth were attending the summer camp organised by the youth wing of Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg's Labour Party on the island of Utoeya.

Police also say seven people were killed in an explosion in Oslo.

Federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said Australians would be appalled by the "brutal and shocking attacks on the people of Oslo".

"Obviously it is important to establish who was responsible for these outrages," he said in a statement on Saturday.

"Norway is a good friend of Australia and the coalition will give its full support for any assistance offered by the federal government.

At least 80 killed in youth camp shooting (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8276308/bomb-blast-shooting-horrify-norway)

Admin
23-07-2011, 02:52 PM
shit , bloody hell

sookie
23-07-2011, 03:43 PM
I heard it on the news this morning.

Very sad news indeed.

Admin
23-07-2011, 07:39 PM
that guy really had a beef , set off a bomb first then went on a shooting spree , what sort of screwed up person does that ( answered my own question) sure have a beef with the government but to take it out on civilians is pretty fucked

Grippy
23-07-2011, 07:50 PM
Very sad that someone could do this.

sookie
23-07-2011, 08:51 PM
The death toll keeps going up! The count now is 91.

Shrek
23-07-2011, 09:15 PM
This reeks of Al Qaeda.

Admin
24-07-2011, 11:15 AM
they reckon the guy was a christian fundamentalists

Shrek
24-07-2011, 12:40 PM
How bizarre?

I heard this morning that he is going to admit guilt.

Do they have the death sentence in Norway?

Admin
24-07-2011, 12:48 PM
nope ,.no death penalty in norway

Shrek
24-07-2011, 12:55 PM
They need to introduce retrospective legislation then, quick smart. :(

Goosey
24-07-2011, 01:03 PM
I think he will somehow end up dead.

sookie
25-07-2011, 09:26 PM
I cannot believe there is so much hatred towards a person of different nationality... I will be teaching my kids about Jane elliot experiment and to embrace diversity.

The Hulk
25-07-2011, 09:54 PM
I think he will somehow end up dead.

This is what I think, because:

If convicted of the murders, Breivik would only spend a maximum of 21 years in jail (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8658063/Norway-shootings-Anders-Breivik-cannot-get-more-than-21-years.html). That's Norway's toughest jail sentence. He could possibly be eligible for parole in 10 years.

walt
25-07-2011, 09:56 PM
should be thrown in jail and the keys thrown away.

The Hulk
25-07-2011, 10:02 PM
Should be very slowly stoned to death by the victims families.

Shrek
25-07-2011, 10:31 PM
I just found out his motives while watching ABC news 24.
Apparantly he is pissed of with The Governments policy on immigration esp Muslims. So he bombed a Government building then went to The Island which was hosting a Labour camp and proceeded to kill the next generation of Norwegian leaders.

TheGiftToLift
26-07-2011, 02:02 PM
This is some sad stuff...

jchen
26-07-2011, 07:12 PM
And he pled not guilty..

Fadi
26-07-2011, 08:30 PM
This reeks of Al Qaeda.This non Muslim terrorist hates Muslims with a passion! I've yet to hear a single media reporter refer to this cockroach as a terrorist. No Muslim is ever happy to see an innocent life taken away, irrespective of race, colour , or creed. Yes, we all have our fanatics, extremist, and of course terrorists; people who inflict terror upon others as this Norwegian sub-human did.



Fadi.

ironman007
26-07-2011, 08:57 PM
This non Muslim terrorist hates Muslims with a passion! I've yet to hear a single media reporter refer to this cockroach as a terrorist. No Muslim is ever happy to see an innocent life taken away, irrespective of race, colour , or creed. Yes, we all have our fanatics, extremist, and of course terrorists; people who inflict terror upon others as this Norwegian sub-human did.



Fadi.


I agree with Fadi...how quick we all are with pointing the finger at Muslims when this latest and I think the worst mass killing in history (i think) was done by a non Muslim who hates Muslims with a passion, absolute BS! This is a massive act of terrorism!!! I'd love to have 5 minutes alone with this bloke ;)

Shrek
26-07-2011, 09:16 PM
The original reports were but the authorities soon realized it was not. I and the Norwegian authorities stand corrected.

nobullsupplements
26-07-2011, 11:08 PM
This guy should not even be given the opportunity to explain himself or his actions - all this media hype over what he has come out and said is exactly what he is after. Simply lock the guy up for life and leave it at that. That'll send a clear message to all other 'fundamentalists'

Admin
26-07-2011, 11:37 PM
This non Muslim terrorist hates Muslims with a passion! I've yet to hear a single media reporter refer to this cockroach as a terrorist. No Muslim is ever happy to see an innocent life taken away, irrespective of race, colour , or creed. Yes, we all have our fanatics, extremist, and of course terrorists; people who inflict terror upon others as this Norwegian sub-human did.



Fadi.

I did have them nearly reference him as being a terrorist but they side stepped around actually calling him a terrorist , not just this bloke but other cases worldwide i haven't heard them refer to attackers as being terrorists unless they are muslim.

i guess you ask the population for word association terrorist they will automatically say muslm , terrorist brings up the image of a bearder person bomb in one hand and quran in the other

considering when terrorists means someone that inflicts terror into others , how come we don't hear people getting referred to as terrorists more often
if you want to take it to a another definition which says

ter·ror·ist/ˈterərist/

Noun: A person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aimsdoesn't that make this bloke a terrorist ?

a sad world we live in

to be fair to shrek i too heard the early reports that this was Al Qaeda

Fadi
26-07-2011, 11:53 PM
The original reports were but the authorities soon realized it was not. I and the Norwegian authorities stand corrected. Just as it was with the Oklahoma City bombing back in 95, so it is now with the Norway massacre; blamed on Muslims. There’s no harm in waiting and plenty of damage can be done (and is done) by not establishing the facts before going public with nothing more than a mere speculation. After all, Muslim people (as any other community of people) are/should be presumed innocent until proven guilty.

PS: I'm in no way trying to have a go at Shrek (I wouldn't do that to the Man), but I'm simply having a mature discussion here with few mates, that's all. Even if Shrek is saying something contrary to me (not hat he is), there would still be no reason for me to jump all over the man. I like a mature discussion especially when the subject is as deep as the one we're having here.


to be fair to shrek i too heard the early reports that this was Al Qaeda The last paragraph was written in response to what Admin wrote in that comment I've pasted above.


Fadi.

Shrek
27-07-2011, 12:00 AM
Al Queda is terrorist group. They did not mention Muslims or is it just assumed all Al Quada members are Muslims (extremists)?

Fadi
27-07-2011, 12:13 AM
Al Queda is terrorist group. The same group were freedom fighters when it suited the US back in the 80s, remember! Maybe they weren't called Al Queda then, but a name doesn't change anything really.

What would you say about the former US president, was he also a terrorist or was he some human saviour? Now depending whom you ask, the answer may differ. Were you aware that some people in the West (non Muslims) want him to face charges of crimes against humanity?


They did not mention Muslims or is it just assumed all Al Quada members are Muslims (extremists)? Yes, they are all Muslims and yes again, they are all extremeists.


Fadi.

Fadi
27-07-2011, 12:23 AM
This guy should not even be given the opportunity to explain himself or his actions - all this media hype over what he has come out and said is exactly what he is after. Simply lock the guy up for life and leave it at that. That'll send a clear message to all other 'fundamentalists'
Van, it is very unfortunate that such a beautiful and meaningful word as "fundamentalist" has been so corrupted over time. Let me explain:

You see right here on this forum Ausbb, we would all be (or most of us at least) like to be called fundamentalist bodybuilders, powerlifters, or whatever that we're involved in. I would not take my car to be fixed by a non-fundamentalist mechanic, would you? To be a fundamentalist is to practice the fundamentals of your profession (or hobby as it is with us here).

Muslim is another word that has been corrupted. As some have mentioned here, you only have to mention the name and straight away people conjure up a negative mental picture. Two elements don't help this facts, they are:

1. The media (and how quick we believe all that we hear/read)

2. Our ignorance and our quick habit of being judgmental before acquiring sufficient factual information of what (or who) it is we're judging.


Fadi.